Everything posted by mickulty
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HWBOT Team Cup 2017 Discussion
So, I did actually report a couple of submissions immediately after they were submitted in the hopes there might be time for a rebench to produce some screenshots that weren't total lemons. Sadly that hasn't happened but what can you do if a team sits on all their scores for a month then posts them at the last minute? Ending up not having chance to correct silly mistakes should be the price you pay. I'm not sure if it would affect the overall ranking at all if some of these were dealt with properly. Certainly I know it wouldn't help my team's rank, which is great because I really wouldn't want to gain from that. Here's the thing. No-one is accusing anyone of actual cheating here. But people make mistakes and the "idiot tax" that results from that needs to be applied fairly. When I ran cinebench on a 1280x1024 monitor I was careful to make sure the entire rendered image was visible, along with window titles cpu-z version and the score. This meant the ranking graph was covered up, which I didn't think would be a problem - turns out it was. I'm fine with that and grateful to websmile for looking through the scores early on so I had time to sort out a bigger monitor and rebench. Now it seems another user benched around the same time and came up with this, which they sat on until the last day: https://d1ebmxcfh8bf9c.cloudfront.net/u8676/image_id_1907172.png Now, we all trust and respect the guy who posted this score. I'm certain they haven't cheated. But surely sandbagging shouldn't let you off the idiot tax? Similar with this 3dmark06 score, the window title is actually explicitly circled in the example screenshot but this totally obscures it: https://d1ebmxcfh8bf9c.cloudfront.net/u7643/image_id_1909354.jpeg Cheat? I doubt it. Silly mistake? Yes, and having sat on the score for long enough that there's no chance to rebench shouldn't give a pass. Again, I really hope not to personally benefit from these scores being dealt with appropriately, but they should be dealt with the same as anyone else's. Unless these are genuinely completely acceptable screenshots, in which case I challenge the hwbot staff to replace the example screenshots with them. If you wouldn't do that, clearly they aren't acceptable and while we know these particular scores haven't been cheated on they should still be subject to the idiot tax. As for system pics, I hope no-one has lost a score over those for this comp.
- Jokot - Pentium 4 2.8Ghz (Northwood, 200 FSB) @ 4018MHz - 0.45 fps HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 1080p
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Why is HWBOT and OC-ESPORTS website so slow....?
100%, especially if it means the bot can be made faster for everyone
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Jokot - Pentium 4 2.8Ghz (Northwood, 200 FSB) @ 4159MHz - 33min 31sec 828ms wPrime - 1024m
And the 'down to the wire' award goes to...
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Why is HWBOT and OC-ESPORTS website so slow....?
The i9-7980XE launch and wider 7900X availability means a ton of world records are being broken. This means every single score below them has to be recalculated. It's not ideal (indiegogo for a better server, anyone? Or maybe Intel could donate some of their new xeons if they're so amazing...) but things should settle down in time.
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Confusing results and points on OC-ESPORTS.
The celeron submission was just my little joke, I had to test a couple of ebay parts and they matched the competition requirements. All the scores in the table are the average across the required number of submissions. So if you're the only one on your team submitting for a stage that needs three submissions it gets averaged two scores of zero - IE divided by three. This always happens on stages where lower is better, which sounds bad, however there's a second factor at play - the team with most submissions (up to the required number) will *always* be ranked higher. So if a stage needs 3 submissions then 5 subs = 4 subs = 3 subs > 2 subs > 1 sub - even if the 1 sub is amazing and the 3 subs are all awful.
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raabenxd - Core i5 6500 @ 4504.7MHz - 4504.67 points Geekbench4 - Single Core
Hey man, not sure why it let you post this without a screenshot but you need a screenshot with results, launch window and cpu-z cpu and memory tabs
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[WTB](US) Second Phase for SR-2
New team rule: you don't get to humblebrag about your incredibly lucky hardware finds if you can't even get the manufacturer right :-P Seriously though, hope you find something.
- HWBOT Team Cup 2017 Discussion
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tatsu.gamer.88 - Core i5 7400 @ 3440MHz - 84147 points Geekbench4 - Single Core
Mate this is the compute score of the 1050Ti - not the single-core score. You need to run the CPU benchmark to get a single-core score. Please also check the rules and example screenshot for CPU-Z and GPU-Z windows you need open to prove what hardware you're running.
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tatsu.gamer.88 - Core i5 7400 @ 3300MHz - 19.84 fps HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 1080p
Nice score but you need cpu-z windows with cpu and memory tabs visible - please check the benchmark rules and example screenshot. I'll have to delete this but hopefully you can rerun and get a better score by setting realtime priority from the menu in the bottom right.
- topyoyoguybest - GeForce GTX 275 @ 793/1326MHz - 112102 marks 3DMark2001 SE
- mickulty - Core i7 4790K @ 5400MHz - 1336 marks XTU
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Barranomaly - GeForce GTX 750 Ti @ 1466.1/1750.1MHz - 155 Points Unigine Superposition - 8K Optimized
Really sorry mate, this is invalid and I have to remove it as superposition has to be run on windows 7 when using a processor other than skylake or kaby lake - see https://hwbotnews.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/windows8-81-10.png. This is because of a timer bug in windows 8 and 10 that makes cheats possible. All the 3DMark benchmarks can be run on 10 as long as you validate online and include a validation link as well as the screenshot, you have a nice OC so I'm hoping you can run some of those.
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Barranomaly - GeForce GTX 750 Ti @ 1464.6/1750.1MHz - 1000 Points Unigine Superposition - 1080P Xtreme
Really sorry mate, this is invalid and I have to remove it as superposition has to be run on windows 7 when using a processor other than skylake or kaby lake - see https://hwbotnews.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/windows8-81-10.png. This is because of a timer bug in windows 8 and 10 that makes cheats possible. All the 3DMark benchmarks can be run on 10 as long as you validate online and include a validation link as well as the screenshot, you have a nice OC so I'm hoping you can run some of those.
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Squirrel_Master - Radeon HD 4890 @ 1199/1185MHz - 23387 marks 3DMark06
Awesome work, thanks
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cbjaust - Radeon HD 3870 GDDR4 @ 837/1251MHz - 43799 marks 3DMark03
I've had the same happen, it's really annoying. I'd rather it hard crashed so I didn't have to keep an eye on it. Think my "record" was in the region of 100k with super unstable settings, crashed on everything except GT1... Super easy mistake to make if you aren't watching it like a hawk throughout the run - and sometimes in GT4 it goes so close to the end that it looks like it finished and just took a bit longer to get back to desktop.
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UK bench meet #4 Country Cup 2017
Well up for this!
- cbjaust - Radeon HD 3870 GDDR4 @ 837/1251MHz - 43799 marks 3DMark03
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No1Spank - FX-8120 @ 4515MHz - 520.15 marks HEVC h.265 Decode
Typo in your score mate - you actually score 50 points higher :-)
- yosarianilives - MT6735 1500MHz @ 988MHz - 988 mhz CPU Frequency
- Squirrel_Master - Radeon HD 4890 @ 1199/1145MHz - 23057 marks 3DMark06
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The official mickulty's SuperPi - 32M user challenge - Aug 29, 2017 until Sep 28, 2017 thread.
Yos and I have been having an argument about whether a hypothetical Phenom II X8 would have been better than the FX series. I asked yos to pick a benchmark and he chose superpi. So, let's see that 1100T beat this...
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JustifiedParanoia - Ryzen 7 1800X @ 4040MHz - 1783 cb Cinebench - R15
Please can you rerun this at some point and get a screenshot where no part of the rendered image is covered at all? Should be possible to arrange it by resizing the cinebench window.
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JustifiedParanoia - Ryzen 7 1800X @ 4100MHz - 6min 51sec 44ms SuperPi - 32M
Mate... you need the "Pi calculation is done!" window visible, along with the checksum. Otherwise this could easily be a score obtained on a 7700K...