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  1. I have two more Sandybridge processors to bench before I abandon this generation for good, should I bench on 5.2 XTU or install Win 8.1 32bit and bench the latest XTU version? I'm asking just to be sure :P

     

     

    till Nov 1, nothing excludes you from benching with 5.2.x on whatever OS you want ; in fact you could bench on 6.4.1.12 on your actual Win7. first oyu need to remove XTU, install KB3033929, then install 6.4.1.12.

     

     

    as of Nov 1. 6.4.1.12 will be mandatory. you can keep benching on Win7 after installing KB3033929, or move to Win8.1, Win10.

    If you plan to cotinue benching XTU later, moving now to 8.1 32 bits might be the best choice

     

    Ps: I am no moderator but I think I understood the rules right :D

  2. Should be OK if the result is comparable, which it should be

     

    Results are comparable, I benched quickly 3770k at 3.9 and obtained 810ish with basic ram 8-11-8-28-1T.

    And obtained around 930 (from the top of my head) at 4.5 with slighlty tightened ram timings

     

    The only thing Test Mode does is to allow digital drivers not signed by M$...

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2509241/how-to-disable-the-test-mode-message-that-is-displayed-in-windows

  3. ok so I found one solution:

    Boot Windows 7 64bits into Test Mode and enforce unsigned iocbios2.sys to appear as signed / verified

    https://superuser.com/questions/1233615/how-to-force-windows-7-to-disable-driver-signature-enforcement

     

    the tool is available here Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider Download does the job nicely to enable the TEST mode, and to indicate which driver to digitally verify !

     

    you can also manually do it with the bcdedit.exe command + manually press F8 at each boot...

    https://support.hidemyass.com/hc/en-us/articles/202723596-How-to-disable-Driver-Signing-check-on-Windows

     

     

    Making a W7 32 bits installation may also solve this...

    And W8.1 32 or W10 32 bits seem to work

  4. They won't fix it. Forward >to> W10 + XTU method is NOT to support old OS.

    In a way Intel & partners like m$ will try force your upgrade path sooner.

     

    Research " zeffy patch " for your Win7 fix. Let me know what you did if it works.

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    Xtu 6.4.1.12 ... does this support nonK Skylake? If NOT ... selling them off

     

     

    XTU not recognizing the cpu all boils down to the digitally signed driver...!!!

     

    Pressing F8 at startup, you can disable it and install XTU. Now the cpu is recognizzed on thre latest version of windows. I need to do the digitally aigned driver permanently now ...!

  5. I don't remember that Important! Windows 8/8.1/10 Allowed on Skylake + Clarification on Engineering Hardware was changed, which clearly states that 8/8.1/10 is allowed for XTU. We're talking XTU here, not all benches.

     

    Making a win10 install solely for xtu when most other benches are on win7....

     

    Xtu 6.4.1.12 running on all cpu generations on windows 7 needs to be fixed, at least i will strive for that on my pc.

  6. K I crosschecked

     

    fresh install windows 8.1 (latest MSDN version) 32 and 64bit

     

    2600K on MVE

     

    32bit: 813

    64bit: 806

     

    3570K on MVE

     

    32bit: 813

    64bit: 809

     

    4790K on OCF

     

    32bit: 1112

    64bit: 1110

     

    Uploaded the 2600K via the bot, works fine :nana:

     

    Thanks mate :-)

     

    Curious to see if i screwed up on win7 or if other users have the same issues...

  7. Win7 support will end 2020.

    Xp is still used here as well as vista and 7.

    I tried win10 pro 32 and got worse scores on xtu than on w7. Plus i find the GUI ugly and the os is heavy.

    In companies everybody is on 7...

     

    The issue is to fibd out if the new newer xtu version will force to be on win10 or not...

     

    From what i see, sandy stops at xtu 5.2 x, ivy at 6.0.x when on win7

  8. Watchdog, yes, required, it comes with XTU (monitoring and recovery). MEI should also be OK when you install it with XTU.

     

    watchdog says present but not present at boot

    https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=554362xtubug.png

     

    for IME, when I install XTU, the IME driver version does not change. I installed manually ver 9.x, it stayed the same. I went to 11.05, stayed there

     

     

    I also get this driver signature message at the end of XTU installation

    489183error.png

     

     

    ME firmware revision is 8.1.x in the bios, I had updated it

  9. I tested 6.4.12 and it worked with M5G and 3770K, Luumi tested 3470 Ivy bridge and it worked as well

     

    This is what I was getting yesterday on 6.4.1.12.

    The cpu was not recognised, and as could be expected, the bench would not start.

    3570 on M5F. With 6.2.x and 6.3.x same issue. 5.2.x and 6.0.x ok, 6.1.x I suppose is ok, will try tonight.

     

    https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=554362xtubug.png

    https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=424283xtubug2.png

     

    You are both on Windows 10 ?

     

    PS: all drivers put for the board, IME / cpu.

    PS2: tried at stock or with a different bclk, same story

  10. Hello,

     

    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't XTU only compatible with the last 3 generations of Intel cpus ? That is :

    6.4.x supports Coffee, Kaby and Skylake

    6.3.x supports Kaby, Skylake and Broadwell

    6.2.x supports Skylake, Broadwell and Haswell

    6.1.x supports Broadwell, Haswell and Ivy Bridge

    5.2.x supports Haswell, Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge?

    (older versions of XTU are not allowed for posting scores)

     

    Will the upcoming mandatory use of 6.4.1.12 (Upcoming Rule Changes on November 1, 2017) is also limit benching on cpus compatible with Z170/270/370 chipsets?

     

    If so, any prospects to make 6.4.x backward compatible with anything from Gen2 onwards?

     

    Cheers

  11. Hello,

     

    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't XTU only compatible with the last 3 generations of Intel cpus ?

    Hence 6.4.x supported Coffee, Kaby and Skylake

    6.3.x supports Kaby, Skylake and Broadwell

    6.2.x supports Skylake, Broadwell and Haswell

    6.1.x supports Broadwell, Haswell and Ivy Bridge

    5.2.x supports Haswell, Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge?

    (older are not alloed for posting scores)

     

    If so, is the mandatory use of 6.4.1.12 (Upcoming Rule Changes on November 1, 2017) is also to limit benching on cpus compatible with Z170/270/370 chipsets?

     

    Any propsects to make 6.4.x backward compatible with anything from Gen2 onwards?

     

    Cheers

  12. Can't be said better than this...

     

     

    Especially considering how valuable locked XTU is(50pts per sub), that could unfairly give someone a huge boost in the rankings.

    On the other hand, if any legitimate subs get removed because they were "suspiciously efficient", that's just as unfair to that individual.

     

    If there's no wy to determine without any doubt whether or not a sub is legitimate, then the only fair way to resolve the situation is to reset all points IMO.

     

    I agree till his last sentence, but resetting all points is NOT fair, period.

    As of now, I will personnally post cpu-z windows and keep a memtweakit screenshot in case of complaints. You can tweak a lot the ram timings to improve the score.

     

    What we need in XTU is a verification code like un superPI ...? Ideally, the Intel community can come up with an update for all Intel cpu generations, since a XTU version does not support beyond n-3 generations. So posting ONE updated XTU version per CPU generation would be ideal....?

  13. We might have to remove all top scores done with skl-x and also remove some other scores of different platforms that are "too good to be true". I am not sure disabling points for all xtu or disabling the benchmark makes sense. 99,9% of benchers did legit scores and only a few, maybe even some of those who already caused trouble at other benchmarks in the past, mainipulated scores. Why punish all when only a few did wrong?

     

    Some common sense has reached Earth !

     

    We might wonder who needs to uncover this cheat now, to get some competitors doing a lot of XTU off the chart...? Probably a silly scenario of my mind watching too many movies...

     

    taking down these scores will impact a lot of honnest folks. I am thinking about a Polish guy who would get blasted from the #2 or 3 if XTU goes down...

    Plus many enthusiasts like myself, binning the best ram and board they can since at least that pays off in XTU..., then getting out the most their cpus can give, using the guidelines (i.e no cheats ; + I don't even run on W10 32 bits which everytbody think is the best...), and their "modest" material means !

  14. Hi.

     

    Instaled the latest version on Maximus V formula, and no system information is displayed on the right handside panel, plus whenenever I click on Run benchmark, error log is displayed.

     

    Looks like this version sucks big time...

    Can t recognize the cpu and number of cores... (i5 3570)

     

    554362xtubug.png

     

    424283xtubug2.png

     

    Got this message form another topic

    http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=162384

     

    Some quick guesses here.

     

    2) XTU: probably related to the version you're using. Officially Intel only supports the latest three platforms in XTU. Sandy Bridge is hence not supported anymore. In @xxbassplayerxx's version library you can find v5.2.0.14 which is both compatible with Sandy Bridge and can still verify the scores online.

     

    So I know 5.2 and 6.0 are ok with Ivy. 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4 are not. Will try 6.1 to see if it works

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