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    GPUPI - SuperPI on the GPU

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    Is there anything need to be done on hwbot side that gpupi 3.3 results just get uploaded for the new gpupi 3.3 category, or is this working now?

    Do you plan to continue the support for the older gpupi or will it stay unmaintained?

    Just asking because hwbot don't need another unmaintained benchmark. And I'm so happy that it's in this good shape for some time now. 

    Would it be possible to create one unified app, one with the old calculation style and one with your new one?

    Can't Submit Pentium 233 MMX Scores

    in Submission & member moderation

    Posted · Edited by Strunkenbold

    I do agree that the way of entering hardware is something which could be improved, as you have to know the exact name of the hardware here on hwbot, but its not impossible to solve this problem... ;)

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    BTW, the problem is that the selection box is to small and doesnt show all available items. You have refine you search..

    nVidia 7800 and 7900 series

    in Support

    Posted

    Well I can just tell you that we started merging cards with different memory sizes last year. Now Christian Ney is gone, Massman is gone, Frederik has no time. I dont have permission.

    I link your thread to the internal "merging thread" but I dont think something will happen. If Frederik has ironed out the most serious website bugs sometime, if at all he _might_ feel comfortable doing this. Maybe somewhere next year.

    Can Ryzen be benched on Windows 10?

    in Ryzen | Bristol Ridge AM4

    Posted

    Some points:

    1. Yes Im aware that the exclusion of Windows 10 is a big problem. This already hurts this platform for sure. And of course the issue is getting bigger and bigger and can be potentially mean the death of hwbot in the long run.

    2. Christian Ney basically makes a longer break for some time now and its even uncertain if he ever returns. He had the most knowledge on this issue. So everyone else from the team has to get in touch with problem first and as I already said, I dont even have the hardware. So testing different platforms and looking for loopholes will take time and money (and Im actually quite sure nobody has the time).

    3. We are in no way interested in harming the competition between Intel and AMD. The whole idea of overclocking is to get more for less. AMD has products again who follows this idea. You spoke a lot about AMD gaining market share because they finally have good products again and thats fine. I really do appreciate that. But they are responsible if they want to compete here on hwbot. Basically it means they have to find a solution. That doesnt mean we hate them. But of course we were left alone here and their ignorance costs us time and money. And both is something the bot doesnt have anymore.

    4. I appreciate your input on this issue. But its really problematic. And its actually like @yosarianilives already said, you would need to build wrappers around a lot of benchmarks, which costs extreme amount of money. There were already plans to do something like that btw but the costs were considered as too high.

    5. The addition of GPU-PI in the screenshot verification would complicate the rules even more and I really fear that its too much for the user. There are already so many subs without any sign of CPU-Z or GPU-Z and I really dont know how it could help here to add one more thing on the list of needed apps to have a valid screenshot for hwbot.

    6. The bot lacks human resources. I just can tell you that Im not in favor of any additional screenshot verification because we have not the staff anymore to reproduce questionable results. And its really too easy to cheat here. Copy & Paste a shot of GPU-PI and Photoshop your result on a black background is basically a 2 mins job. So things are simply not safe enough for competitions. 

    So in the end I dont need to ask for a complex verification screenshot if I cant trust the result anyway. Im really sorry but in the current situation the bot is not able to to take even more work on his and its staff. We actually have to simplify things and reduce workload. So the only real solution is that everybody should get in touch with AMD and report this bug to them. The more people the better.
     

     

     

    Can Ryzen be benched on Windows 10?

    in Ryzen | Bristol Ridge AM4

    Posted

    This seems like a good idea. But it needs excessive testing on many platforms and the usage is quite limited. I dont own any Ryzen so somebody else would need to spend some time in this.

    One major drawback is that while GPU PI provides results as a datafile, every other bench just uses screenshot verification. It should be no problem for someone who wants intentionally cheat to copy and paste such a GPU PI window or simply reclock his machine. The problem here is that the screenshot just shows the clock after the benchmark but we should actually need to know how the clock was during the run. So it would be no solution for competitions and global points.

    It could be a solution for casual benchers but it would also mean additional steps for the screenshot and it seems that CPU-Z / GPU-Z is already problem, now we speak about people have to open GPU-PI to submit a SuperPI result.

    All in all it is a bug which either AMD or MS needs to fix. I understand that this has ultra low priority for them but it basically makes benchmarking with Win10 a no go for us. 

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