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    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    2 hours ago, munternet said:

    Thanks for the reply :)

    I'm using D5 PWM pump controlled off the CPU fan header with molex main power and EK 4 way splitter cables all daisy chained off the #2 case fan header with their own power sources running 7x PWM Furious Varder EK 140mm fans. All fans are controlled by the 10k thermistor (T-sensor) from the main coolant res.

    32GB G.Skill (2*8GB) with only a single M.2 samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB. No DIMM2 riser so a pretty basic setup really.

    I might clear the cmos again and manually input all the settings and see what happens :)

    You sure that CPU pin 2 is not overloaded? The typical spec for the fan connector is around 12w (12v, 1amps).

    Might want to move all the fans to the High AMP H_AMP fan header instead.

     


    Guessing here is when all the fans run full speed it'll overload the header and the motherboard restart for protection or something.

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    On 8/29/2020 at 10:18 PM, munternet said:

    Have been using the 0088 bios for M12A and it has been going very well but when I try to use the fan control in the bios it freezes and I need to press the retry button.

    Is there a newer bios or a way to get around this?

    The only thing working for me is setting the fans up first then applying the overclock and if I need to make adjustments clr cmos, make changes and reapply the overclock

    0088 works with fan control and fan calibration for me

     

    I'm using exclusively PWM fans though

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    Gigabyte Z490 XOC BIOS/Tools

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted · Edited by str8_an94baller

    On 8/30/2020 at 9:12 PM, Mr. Fox said:

    Yeah, basically Gigabyte's firmware sucks. I am going to RMA this. I've ordered an Apex board to replace it that should arrive on Wednesday. At least with the firmware on ASUS Maximum and Rampage series and the EVGA X299 Dark motherboards all of my commands are carried out explicitly as I enter them in the firmware.

    With the Gigabyte board, I essentially have to leave everything on "Auto" as far as advanced settings and pretend they do not exist, because using them causes malfunction. It makes no difference what BIOS version I use, the outcome is the same. One of the few settings that actually does what it is supposed to do is the gamer-boy multiplier field near the top of the Tweaker page. If I change anything with EIST, SpeedShift, core ratios, core ratio limits everything turns to crap and the CPU falls to 5.1GHz on all cores regardless what the multis are set to.

    Anyhow, this would be a really decent motherboard if I were a gamer, but I am not. Benching is my "game" LOL. So, I did get the voltage under control again using the KISS method and ignoring all of the BIOS options I would normally use. I just set LLC to "1" and set Fixed voltage to 1.400V get what you see in the screenshot. Nothing resembles what I set in the BIOS and none of my "commands" are followed. But, it's cool, stable and doesn't fall down to 5.1GHz under load. This will do until Wednesday.

    FYI - anyone using Windows 7 (I am multi-booting) and seeing the CPU stuck at 3.7GHz, use ThrottleStop to apply your BIOS settings. The "Set Multiplier" option should force the CPU to do what the BIOS is telling it to. (It sure sucks the way everything is geared for Windows 10 now. I understand why, but it doesn't make it suck any less. It is unfortunate that Windows 10 is such a pile of crap OS.)

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    anything other than apex should be called a Minimus

     

     

     

    thing about that crash you experience, I suppose it has to do with the cpu internal power management?

     

    If I do 5GHz on the 10900K and set any one of these: CPU temp limit, CPU current limit (amps), CPU power limit 1/2 (incl TAU time) it's fine

     

    But I set 5.1GHz, with any amount of voltage, the system will immediately die if those limits are applied (not even hit/trigger)

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    92mm high speed slim fan option for the Dan A4 or other SFF cases.

    I have two pieces. Better suited for SFF cases with high TDP components.

    Price: $17

     

    NZXT X53 / X63 / X73 cable set

    Might work on older AIO or other brand AIO that use Asetek as their OEM.

    Includes USB data cable and pumpblock cable that branches to SATA/RPM HEADER/RGB. I have two.

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    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted · Edited by str8_an94baller
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    On 8/8/2020 at 4:08 PM, Midnight703 said:

    Should be able to get 1t at that freq, try oil offset of 22 or higher and see if itll train, and see if the rtls will train all the same, at 62 or lower. I would also go through the secindaires, looks like some may be able to tighten and terts should be able to tighten significantly. What voltages are you on for those timings?

    @Midnight703

     

    I tried, still can't do 1T

     

    The offset 22 works though

     

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    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    9 hours ago, skullbringer said:

    for SA 1.45 V was the safe limit for 6th gen, but Intel's 14nm has improved a lot, so up to 1.65V is fine since Coffee Lake.

    My chip is delidded and has a Supercool computers direct core mk6 block fitted to it with conductonaut. Under load in realbench Vcore droops to 1.43V under LLC6 and temps stay below 70C for all cores, so should be fine, no?

    for 24/7?

     

    that seems a bit extreme...

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    On 8/8/2020 at 4:08 PM, Midnight703 said:

    Should be able to get 1t at that freq, try oil offset of 22 or higher and see if itll train, and see if the rtls will train all the same, at 62 or lower. I would also go through the secindaires, looks like some may be able to tighten and terts should be able to tighten significantly. What voltages are you on for those timings?

    it doesn't seem to train at 1T

     

    1.522 vdimm

    1.35v sa and io

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Midnight703 said:

    Not in my experience, it doesnt require round trip latency to be enabled, but most of the time mode 2 will not train when you are pushing the limits of your imc or kit. If you can train mode 1 without a problem but not mode 2 I assume that's an issue with imc or kit not being able to handle the tighter subs, iol, and rtl values. 

    got it, thanks for the advice

     

    this with mode 1, and rtl training enabled

     

     

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    anything I should try to improve?

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted · Edited by str8_an94baller

    20 hours ago, Midnight703 said:

    My understanding is the maximus tweak modes tighten subs, rtl, and iol values with mode 2 being tighter than mode 1. When testing limits I try to keep it on mode 2 and see how far it will go. I have also noticed on mode 2 the rtl values are as tight as they will train, but the iol values have some room for tightening most ost the time. 

     

    If I am trying to push high freq I will sometimes back off to mode 1 if its having trouble training, only going to auto if it cant even train on mode 1.

    Ah and this mode requires RTL training to be enabled under advanced settings to work right?

     

    With mode 1 I can boot no problem, mode 2 won't boot regardless.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Regarding VRM tool, it allows adaptive transient response so it will change VRM switching frequency on the fly to best suit the load scenario?

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Midnight703 said:

    Just got my z490 Apex, is 0088 the best bios so far? Anyone confirm if it allows over 2v vdimm without LN2 mode enabled?

    I think people mainly download 0088 just for the tXP and PPD without the need for memtweakit.

     

    I will check the vdimm limit for you real quick.

     

    What kits are you planning to use >2v on? Without extreme cooling?

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, davestarrr said:

    you can change tXP and PPD in mem timings and to your second question .... SP is silicon quality prediction value ... you cant change it :D how much SP do you have ? and cooling s obvious

     

     

    Oh damn, thanks a BIG quality of life improvement! Thanks for the info.

     

     

     

     

    I have SP71

     

    I believe someone mentioned that the SP would sometimes be inaccurate with a new bios / cpu install.

    ROG Maximus XII Apex

    in Comet Lake (Z490) & Rocket Lake (Z590) OC

    Posted · Edited by str8_an94baller

    17 hours ago, FireKillerGR said:

    You get limited memory frequency of around 3800 if you don't use the legacy overclocking option without ucode.

     

    You need to test but cinebench benefits from having the ucode included

    what does legacy memory oc mode change?

     

    curious to learn beforehand since I still don't have my system setup

     

     

     

    what benchmarks, if any, benefit from the ucode delete?

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