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To clear things up: 7.469s 1M / 8:03 32M (QX9650) were done on a mrlobber's P5K3 board. We benched together, the owner of CPU was he, so he owns the result. no conflict with hwbot rules. Since he didn't want to kill the CPU trying high Vcore for the WR - I've bought it from him (can show online bank transfer printouts, if necessary) and we tried it with BlitzExtreme board (I've wrote rig. specs at OCX) and did 7.406s 1M which was WR. The owner of CPU was me, if hwbot has anything against it - we will remove one 1M score as that may look like "local hardware sharing" even though I paid full price for the CPU. The QFS logo on the hwbot version of the screen is put due to support I recieved from Foxconn programme in face of 2x1Gb HyperX DDR3 kit which I used for the record. If it is confusing for some, I am ready to upload "normal" screen with no logo. I think that everyone knows, that BlackOps doesn't have "pre45nm" BIOS to boost 1M scores, do you agree? George, let's not start name calling in public again, but I believe that coolaler's record is valid. - As we know, he cooperates with Intel and he INDEED! has access to handpicked pre-released hardware. - He showed CPUz verification / various FM links of CPU running in those MHZ area, so there was no problem for him to run 1M at that clock. - If you think that getting 6.3GHz+ on a E8xxx is impossible, you'd better check on latest results from TeamJapan where like 5 people were getting old-gen E8500s to such clocks.

not speaking seriously: come to think of it - those who pay $500 for pro version get better results ... because they have the chance to tweak their OS better by removing networking components and submit later

again , we're not discussing VISTA over here - everyone has it's own opinion on it! looking at the thinking of those who've voted "FOR" hwbointing that bench I've noticed more of "I can afford it -> I vote for" rather than "Paying $$$ for being able to bench is OK -> I vote for"

we're not talking about hardware requirements here , it just the question of whether or not should the community accept the principal of "non-free" benchmark...

Let's then make a new "benchmark" category at hwbot : everyone goes to their bank ask the lady to print their bank balance take a pic submit and compare Benchmarks that need you to pay money are simply a "NO!!!!!!" because they put everyone in unfair conditions. If it continues - then they'll prompt you to throw 25c coin if you want to continue benching (just like in an arcade game machine)

but we need similar conditions to all the cards and some just won't run that high settings

Suicide runs (no stability tests) 'd be pointless as most of the modern cards have separate 2D and 3D clocks - so you can set 2000/2000 for 3D mode on whatever card you own - run GPUz in 2D mode - GPUz 'll read 2000/2000 - you have #1 spot stupid if we're talking about "benchable" rankings - best way to combine GPU/MEM clocks without separating the categories is a bench that is 100% GFX dependant Sadly, 01 nature isn't such anymore - with 9800GX2 cards you have a heavy CPU bottleneck there