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Added league support for career rankings on UAT server.

@I.nfraR.ed indeed heavily inspired by your customization!

I'm making a planning right now.

I agree it's a lot of effort put in by overclockers to join online competitions, I just think points is not the way to reward them for their effort. Eg a banner on their profile page saying he won a specific competition is IMHO much more appropriate.

Are you participating in the competitions just for points? I think most do it either for the prize money (mf competitions) or for the fun (team / country cup / old school best school / etc).

Good write-up and happy to see people mostly agree with you @Cautilus. I should hire you for PR. ? Most of your suggestions will be implemented in rev8.x, though not all in the initial launch.

Indeed, as oc-esports will mostly be retired and competition will mainly focus on fun and teamwork (team cup, country cup, fun challenges) or organized by a manufacturer.

Updated rev8 / uat with the result of the polls. Top 15/30 for season, 30/60 for career.

Closing poll. I'll use 60 so career = 2x season

mixed results, i'll pick 15 as between 10 and 20 seems to be fine.

30 it is, closing poll

Career will be 30/60, season exactly half at 15/30.

@12AX7 was it seen as a dual core when using the previous hwbot prime 0.8.3? Can you open a command line box and enter this command: cmd /C WMIC CPU Get /Format:List What value does it give for "NumberOfCores" ?

What people tend to forget is that rev8 is dubbed "classic" as it was my intention to go back to our roots and remove a lot of the complexity that came after rev3. Turns out a lot of the stuff added over the years is loved, but people don't realize it until you are about to take it away. Team power points, a separate league so newcomers don't need to compare against extreme overclockers, team cups, country cup, ...

Your point is valid, and no, you would not get points for your seasonal ranking if you can't beat your past season's ranking. I'd say there is sufficient hardware on the market for you to either push newer/different hardware in the next season, or beat your own record.

If people start deleting and resubmitting each year it's possible to add detection for this without moderator intervention.

Fasttrack, that was what Pieter tried to achieve with the esports/road to pro site. Don't mind me if I don't try it twice.

Because when points where initially launched, participation on HWBOT boomed. Most people love points/karma/likes/kudos/whatever. It's virtual and meaningless, but people love gathering stuff. If you don't care about point, good for you! Reason more to just say "just go live with rev8" and let me focus on other stuff than damn points for once. Your example was bad because it did not make your point clear.

That's a bad example. All submissions with a 1070 which scored about the same use extreme cooling. This is not an example of unfair points, but of either a very good chip or a user which did not change the "stock cooling" default to the cooling he used. LN2: https://uat.hwbot.org/submission/3578161_buildzoid_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_20612_marks/ Chilled water: https://uat.hwbot.org/submission/3929098_totalnet_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_20653_marks/ Dry ice: https://uat.hwbot.org/submission/3728863_shar00750_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_20220_marks/ The more you limit the amount of submissions, the more money comes into play. Yet you suggest the opposite. What is more expensive? Using LN2 and top end cpu/memory/mobo to get the most out of your GTX 1070 for one benchmark, or using air/water and do 10 benchmarks with your GTX 1070? Obviously the latter is cheaper. HWBOT has always been about the compromise between showing of world records which are crazy to achieve both in skill and money, and making it fun for the community who just wants to mess around with decent oc's and improved cooling. We don't benefit from excluding either party, but we can't make it ideal for both.

It's not ok if the crew decides the limit and it's not ok if the community decides the limit. Can you give a concrete example where you can buy 10 new pieces of hardware and them a stock speed to gain thousands of points? No vague complaints please.

I know the feelings are mixed about seasons, but I really like on UAT you have a ranking of active overclockers.

Indeed, not ATP style but starts on 1st jan - end 31 dec

Poll is indeed inconclusive, slightly in favor of simplifying. It will depend on my spare development time whether I will simplify it, but it will remain as-is in initial rev8 launch.

Current year, not 12 months span. So 2019 points, 2020 points, etc.

It is! It's called other.