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  1. Sorted a deal out, can close thread now.
  2. @MrGenius Well to quote mat: I think this wording is saying "stop messing with Geekbench with your program or we'll sue". Mat already agreed to stop distributing the benchmark, but now the devs want him to stop BenchMate from doing anything at all to Geekbench. If they want mat to completely withdraw any functionality that BenchMate has for Geekbench, then I think it should be slated for removal of points if/when HWBOT moves to needing BenchMate for everything.
  3. Ah after looking around the Z170M OCF doesn't look that hard to mod so I'm happy to do it myself actually. I just need the board updated with the latest official BIOS so it has Kaby Lake support. @Sparky's__Adventure Happy to offer $250 USD + shipping to Portland, Oregon. If that's all good then PM me your paypal and I'll give you the address.
  4. Looking for a Z170M OCF or M9A that works with Coffee Lake CPUs. Happy to consider any other non-mITX 2 DIMM boards that would work with Skylake + Kaby + Coffee. Paying with verified PayPal. I live in Australia but have a US forwarder. If you're in Europe then I might be willing to pay shipping depending on how expensive it is (can work it out in PMs).
  5. Ditch Geekbench if they're gunna get all lawyer-y about it. Thanks Mat for all the time and money you've put into benchmate 👍
  6. Considering you only get points from 1 division, so long as there is at least one division H2O can fairly participate in, it's fine. And whatcha know, there's two divisions that are ambient locked. Heck you could probably be competitive in every non-ambient division except for div 1 (and probably div 2) with a good enough 1151 chip on water. So I don't see what your problem is here, as your 8086K could easily compete in div 3 and your 4790K in div 7.
  7. I keep seeing this issue of competition points being "stripped" or "removed" from older members. The institution of a top5/top10 (as opposed to unlimited) for career comp points doesn't really strip away comp points from anyone, if you placed 1st in a bunch of big OC events in like 2010, then those points will still be here, counting towards your ranking if you don't have any other better results. Even under rev7, as George points out, comp points evaporated after 12 months and I didn't see people getting all riled up about their comp points being "stripped" even though that is exactly what was happening. In actuality, under rev8, older members will be getting more comp points on a permanent basis then they ever have been (if comp points always had a 12 month expiry in the past before rev7 - feel free to correct me if this isn't the case). I also agree with the other point George makes, that for newer people trying to catch up, it will most likely take significantly longer to accumulate a similar number of points to older members, because the number of competitions every year has started rapidly decreasing. Here's a graph that illustrates this, with competition data taken from here. Just to put some numbers on this, if you participated in 50% of comps from 2013 - 2018 (making a simplifying assumption that all comps give the exact same amount of points), and if there were only 45 comps per year for the forseeable future, it would take just over 12 years for the new member to catch up at the same participation rate, and only if you stopped participating in any comps. What kind of bullshit is that? And even if we dismiss the fact that it might take significantly longer for new members to be on an equal footing with older members, if older members continue to participate in new competitions, then there's the hypothetical scenario where an older member will always have more competition points, regardless of how much time a new member puts in. The fact that is possible with unlimited career comp points is a tremendous issue. I don't see why we wouldn't want to improve the system to promote equality for all members going into the future, rather than advancing the interests of older members at the expense of new members.
  8. You don't need a bridge or some kind of external interconnect (SLI/NVLINK/Crossfire) to use multiple GPUs for GPUPI.
  9. That's entirely unfair. There were many competitions in the past that new people are incapable of participating in and receiving points from, so you're basically just allowing people who've been here since 2006 like thousands of extra points that literally no one else can ever get. I think competitions should make an impact, but there needs to be a cap so that new people can eventually be competitive, by putting in the time, in new competitions that they are capable of participating in.
  10. Alright so after some discussion with other members, @richba5tard I have a few more suggestions for future minor revisions (probably for the March Rev8.2): Career ranking should include top 5 or top 10 competitions, I think competitions should have some sort of persistent effect, and limiting it to top 5 or top 10 should ensure that people who haven't been around as long as others won't be unfairly disadvatanged by a large margin. Seasonal ranking should just simply include all competition results for that season, just to simplify wording instead of "top 5 comps" or whatever. We should be able to see where you placed in seasonal leagues in the past, I think this will help improve the meaning/usefulness of seasonal ranking, so that the ranking won't feel like it's for nothing and just evaporate after 31st December. e.g. just add a new section on your profile that says something like: "2018 season - achieved 9th in enthusiast league, 5th in Australia etc." Comps need to have a better method for assigning points to participants, as at the moment I think they're a bit arbitrary with some getting more or getting less. I think a primary contributing factor should be the number of participants/submissions, more people/subs -> more points, capping at say 50 participants? Socket points or socket rankings sound like a good idea.
  11. @MrGenius your points aren't gone, it's just at the moment, your team position is based on your seasonal submissions (i.e. subs you've made in the 2019 season, this year). But, any subs you've made prior to 2019 are incorporated into your career ranking. I believe Richba5tard is going to improve on this in a couple of weeks, but this is how it is for now.
  12. Yeah I know we had that thread, but as you can see the result of the poll was inconclusive because it was split roughly half and half, so we need to find a compromise that both sides are going to agree to, so we can have community consensus. There were lots of opinions and ideas thrown around, but it's hard to see what ideas have support or not, and I don't think there was a firm consensus that most people agreed upon. That's why I'm suggesting structured debate/polling so we can see where the community's heads are at so that we can reach a compromise and thus consensus. E.g. like: Q1 Would you implement the changes to member leagues as outlined in Cautilus' Rev8 proposal? Yes/No Q2 Would you implement a 4 league solution with SS and all chillers included in Enthusiast (Novice/Enthusiast/Extreme/Elite - extra details would be contained in the post)? Yes/No Q3 Would you implement a 3 league solution (Novice/Non-sponsered/Sponsered - extra details would be contained in the post)? Yes/No Then people can debate the various options presented or iterate on those ideas to make better ideas, and hopefully we'll arrive at a sufficiently accepted conclusion. I don't think we should make a drastic change to the system because 52% of the community voted in favour of it, we need to find something that should have 60 or 70% support, if it exists.
  13. Cheers, Rich 😄, happy to help. Glad to hear most of the suggestions will get implemented eventually. Just curious if you'd be able to say which things are going to be implemented sooner and which ones later? Also re: all the people discussing leagues, I think it is a very hot button topic that requires more structured debate/polling, as we need to gauge opinion on the various suggestions/ideas that have been put forward. I firmly believe we should have a community consensus before moving forward with any changes, therefore postponing any changes to leagues is probably a good idea.
  14. Just so George doesn't look silly, I actually added this in the post after he commented about it/mentioned it to me.
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