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    Splave - Core i7 7700K @ 6986MHz - 4min 20sec 250ms SuperPi - 32M

    in Result Discussions

    Posted

    It's looks pretty retail to me per cpuz, so I would say it's about as retail as it can be since it is lacking the letters "ES" in cpuz.

     

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    Yes it says retail in CPUZ, but no retailer in USA has broken the NDA publicly, which means this chip has to be acquired through someone breaking the NDA behind the scenes or it has came from a board manufacturer, who would still be breaking the NDA by giving him the chip.

     

    Point being, even though the chip says retail, the methods of acquiring it would be backhanded at best and different from the people buying it from webshops in Germany. Which means you guys end up being the same thing you set out to denounce. Ironic.....

    Kaby NDA breaking shame thread

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    It really just boils down to being a man of your word. If you signed an NDA you should follow it, it's that simple.

     

    I have no problem with this. Neither do I encourage breaking NDA. Issue is the people trying to act holier than others and trying to enforce NDA like they are Intel or something. Its Intel's contract, if they want it enforced, they can do it themselves. Intel wants to sue people, they can do it, no one is stopping them. You think Intel doesn't know who leaked the stuff. You think they don't have some department which handles this and tracks the leaks? They do. So all that is being done here, is a show is being put on.

     

    We've got people here telling don't break NDA in public, just do it in private, because you know, that still makes you, "A man of your word". The hypocrisy is hilarious.

     

    It has nothing to do with maintaining superiority, it's a legally binding contract and I don't know about you but I would prefer to not have to deal with any litigation over my hobby.

     

    Only the public leakers are being targeted, no one cares about private ones. How is this not about maintaining superiority.? Because the way I see it, public leakers are gonna anger Intel, they gonna crack down on everyone, to the point of even the private people barely having any info. And that is why they care, don't give me other BS. People just want the heat off their backs by sacrificing others.

     

    It honestly just sounds like your a little butt hurt you don't have a prelaunch CPU source because believe me if you were on the other side of the fence I'm sure you opinion about leaking NDA information would be completely different but hey I could be wrong.

     

    I am not butt hurt, and I have plenty of prelaunch info sources. I just realize that, that information puts me in an advantageous position over the others. And I would like to share that with everyone, if I could without endangering my source, but I can't. So I am all for others who can do it.

     

    Everytime I see an ln2 Binned Skl chip for sale for more than 450-500Euro, I can't help but roll my eyes. I know what I need to know about Kaby, just not worth putting my friends in danger to demonstrate to you that I know.

     

    Also people want to slam Intel and throw them under the bus for everything but if you guys had any idea how much they do for over clocking that you guys just take for granted you would be shocked, but it's just so much easier to just complain instead.

     

    They are not doing it for charity. And don't tell me otherwise unless you have internal Intel financial information that proves that they are doing stuff for Overclocking without profiting off of it.

     

    Allen speaking up might prevent others

     

    Public shaming and threatening to report to Intel seems like a hell of a way to protect people. The people who did the leaking already know what they are messing with. If you wanted to protect them, could’ve been done via PM. They are already on Intel’s radar after the leaks anyway.

    Kaby NDA breaking shame thread

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by rtsurfer

    I see no shame here.

    All I see is people looking out for their own personal best interest. Only reason you care about the NDA breaks is because your prelaunch CPU supply will stop. Frankly, I don't give a damn.

     

    These leaks help normal people, who might not have friends in the right places (not everyone does), get some idea of what's to come & organize their purchases that way. I am for everyone benefiting and not just a select few "power users/XOCers". :rolleyes:

     

    I just see people trying to maintain their superiority by making sure they get to play with stuff ahead of time & they share it with their chosen friends.

     

    How would it be if Intel decided not to send any CPUs even to manufacturers anymore and forced them instead to have a company representative only use them under their guidance. Bet the OC boards would be terrible at a design level that couldn't be fixed.

     

    I don't think they'll go that far, if they do, well screw em. They are only gonna hurt themselves if they are not willing to provide CPUs even to Mobo makers. I will bench AMD, I don't care.

    The writing's on the wall (Zen)

    in Ryzen | Bristol Ridge AM4

    Posted

    Here, you go

     

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/first-summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-65#post-38572267

     

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/first-summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-66#post-38572990'>https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/first-summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-66#post-38572990

     

    Sorry to disappoint, but the consensus(according to Stilt & a few others) seems to be that majority of that 'info' is BS

     

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/first-summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-63#post-38567022

     

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/first-summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-66#post-38572990

    Lets talk about 32m Low Clock Challenges

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    I can't check 'cause ATM i don't have Asus board at home, but i'm pretty sure of what i'm saying, doesn't matter what can u set in bios. If u can check try to boot at 100.06 and read the frequency with hwinfo.

    Can i be wrong i'm human after all, but please stop flamming and try to turn this into a vendors war.

     

    So you people are making assumptions without concrete info & then I am flaming for pointing out that those assumptions maybe wrong...? Seems right.. :rolleyes:

     

    Also, I am not the one starting a vendor war, just defending the vendor that I use, because

    1) No one else was doing it

    2) Indirectly it also makes my results (that i worked very hard for), seem invalid.

     

    But apparently defending a vendor is equivalent to starting a vendors war even though i never attacked any other vendor. Please, stop making false accusations.

    Lets talk about 32m Low Clock Challenges

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    Think you need to get of yiur asus high horse,I ask the question is it 100.125,only quoting what rule wrote,I've not got the board to tr

     

    Simple answer like it can run lower bull is all what was needed

     

    My post wasn't directed specifically to attack you or else I would've quoted you, instead of using 'guys'. Both Rule & Splave mentioned 0.0625Mhz being the lowest step on Asus, which was snowballing into you making wrong assumption.

     

    Just wanted to put the correct information out there for existing posters & prevent future wrong assumptions from other people.

    Lets talk about 32m Low Clock Challenges

    in Benchmark software

    Posted · Edited by rtsurfer

    Not to rain on you guy's parade. But on Asus you can adjust BCLK in 0.01 Mhz increments *in BIOS*.

     

    I've always ran 100.06 x 50 which should be 5002.9Mhz according to the BIOS.

     

    Not to take away from the purpose of this thread, but don't you dare label all Asus 32m Skl results invalid.

     

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