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    hwbot "classic" rev8

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    On 1/18/2019 at 8:46 PM, richba5tard said:

    Your point is valid, and no, you would not get points for your seasonal ranking if you can't beat your past season's ranking.

    I'd say there is sufficient hardware on the market for you to either push newer/different hardware in the next season, or beat your own record. :)

    Yes it is true there are more new and expensive hardware. Part of the sport i thought was that you could go out and also buy cheap old hardware to beat the C@#p out of through hard pushing.  It would mean if i never submitted scores before i will get nice good points in the season for going out and buy what i did not have of old stuff in my drawers. Ofcourse I would not go out and by a new 7640x or a 6700k if i have one but it would probably also mean it has degraded enough to not potentially give the peak score i had in  a previous year. Now I might be pushing the hardware with chiller last year and dice this year. In some of the last years team competitions this was exactly the case. Did not give me any scores but pulled a lot of points for the team. but can you then give advantage to the guys that went out and bought new (old hardware) over active users just because they did not get a new score on the same this year? if my score was actually higher while lower compared to previous year?

    Meanwhile I do think its a bit of a turnoff to see that my scores having finally come above 1000 points i will be back down to 73 points because i have only used my 9900k effectively in 2019.. I had an extremely intense period the last 3 months of 2018... probably spent 500 usd on dry ice and another 500 on the pots. now it would be more sensible to simply stop trying the last 3 months and start a major session beginning of the year... 

    HWBOT does not work?

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    12 hours ago, TerraRaptor said:

    I wouldn't do this. UAT uses a database taken from original hwbot and I don't think syncing this "outdated" (let it be 2-3 days older before hwbot went offline) to the main db is a good idea etc. They will have a lot of issues when rev8 goes to public so another syncing task should be avoided if possible. Anyway, why can't you wait a day or two?

    I have no problem waiting... i simply posted a question that is interesting to get an answer on.

    With the architecture behind i would imagine its an SQL database containing the data. Then a boint calculation engine and a presentation layer. But i have no detailed understanding of how they built the site

    I know the team would not switch between ver7 to  ver8 without announcing so on front page:-)

     

    CPU benchmarks applicable for global points - 2019

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    10 hours ago, unityofsaints said:

    What you said was that you run the same voltage for 20 different benches and expect the chip to survive them all. What I'm saying is that 4K needs less voltage as it is hotter - what's ignorant about that?

    simply different incremental approach......sighhh,. If you look at my submissions you would probably find that there is both different clocks and voltages on just about any submission. Meanwhile yes I incrementally increase voltages and run different benchers. and one sticks out as a sore thumb when I used DRY ice and was quite surprised by the fact  (and other users had noticed a similar point) and no I have never burned a CPU because of the 4K .   So yes I prefer to have another bencher in the CPU category for points than the X265 4K irrespective what voltages I would run and that preference was the 1080p version. You will never agree and that is perfectly ok. 

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    hwbot "classic" rev8

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    Just a few comments on the 7 vs 8.as a simple apprentice on the site since 2014

    1. It does not make sense to divide up the country pages by different leagues. I normally spend more time comparing with the higher league than my own in Sweden.. As in compared to extreme league in sweden would be 4th but yes im am an apprentice. thus combine all in one country list. reduces maintenance im sure. meanwhile ofcourse its good there is a league that i can strive higher in as im not close to competitive with the LN scores.

    2. I believe competition points should only be considered in terms of challenger and team competitions. There was only 35 or less countries competing and I was the one and only swede competing and still ended up on 20th place while I had not been able to enter even half of the sub-events.  Meanwhile if I had not taken part as the sole user i would lose a lot of points as I see it now.

    3. clearly i would not want to lose my hard earned sli points with my GTX780's that burned up 4 years ago. If someone beat my score perfect but lets not make this simply a yearly scratch event.. i believe that is why the road to pro events are done and are run on a yearly basis. I find it fun to be out looking for old hardware to see if i can beat the old records even if being 10 years too late finding the hardware., keeping hardware points mean i can also revisit old scores that i had on simple waterloop and now DICE them. It also mean i can go back to same hardware with new bench software to add to old cups i already have. 

    4. If someone is not active for 2-3 years then I would propose to simply mark the profile inactive and those scores dont count. If the person then comes back active the scores can be re-activated. While it looks like we have 130,000 or so users im not so sure that is true .looks nice to be part of the top 1% of overclockers haha but does not feel like it...

     

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    CPU benchmarks applicable for global points - 2019

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    12 hours ago, MaddMutt said:

    I'm not EVEN in the same room as Spave when it comes to HW, Points, Being Elite, Well Know, Ect, Ect.  We ALL take a risk when we Overclock something. CPU, GPU, Memory, Motherboard, Ect, Ect. If you are not willing to lose a piece of HW when OCing, then don't OC it. If to be 1st with a i9-9900k at 8GHz is to run it with 2.15v using LHE, that is you. If it breaks, don't whine about it. You know full well that Hardware can and will break. If you lost the i7-7700k while running x264 4k, where you trying for a World Record or a Top Score?? The CPU's that where lost to x265 4k, where they being push to finish within the top 10???

    I have several sets of G.Skill memory but I'm not willing to find out if they will run at DDR4-4000+ at 12-12-28 1t. If you have a set and you fry them, is it your Fault or the Bench SW that you where running??

    I broke my i7-8700k {De-Lidded) that was working in my ASrock z170 OCF motherboard. Is it ASrocks/Splaves fault that it broke or My Own for modding it so that it would work/run in a z170 motherboard.

    My wife coined a saying for what I do to simplify the explaining. It's like NASCAR but with computers :)

    Thank You For Your Time

    I beg to differ. Yeah i have no problem burning my equipment if i felt like it and have no gripes if I do. However if I OC 20 different benchers in a safe environment with safe voltages and then run x256 4K with the same settings and that particular one is likely to ruin my hardware then yes I do consider that it should be removed from the main point ratings as a point accumulating software.  I am fully aware that stress test on Prime95 is a potential issue and so dont run it. I state this based on that 99.9 % of the people here are not sponsored with such hardware and if the intention is to see a sport grow on the HWbot then that might be a better option.

    Yes me too de-lidded my CPU's none broken yet. but yeah I have 2 burned GTX 780's (due to heat and humidity with the boards dripping of water in the tropics ,I have a partially working 5960X some crazy AMD processor that is out on greener pastures due to me not dissassemblying the  pots after the session. A partially working GTX 1070 (well it works but overheat as something on the board is gone after a Dice session so who cares. They are mine and I had fun while it lasted:-) and is part of my learning process of what to do and not to do ? And no I am not trying for the world records as I know  LN is needed for the same. Im not running nascar im running formula carting.

    Anyone doing OC will break hardware eventually but if a particular software is standing out above all the others for a reason then yeah get rid of it or modify it so it is reasonable.

     

     

     

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    CPU benchmarks applicable for global points - 2019

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    On 12/5/2018 at 11:37 PM, Splave said:

    I'm sorry to say this because the developer works hard on it but x265 4k is a cpu killer and should be disabled for globals. I'm not talking randomly either, if you run it on ln2 with a modern cpu there is a greater than 50% chance it won't work the next day

     

    R15 has become a slot machine +(-)30 points on a 6 core. R11.5 is still consistent though figure that out. 

    Can see the point on x265 4k. Am just running dry ice in my pot and all other bencher softwares is ok  for a regular OC session. The moment you turn on 4K despite same clockspeeds there is not way to keep even the alcohol in the pot as it runs so hot its mad. Seems to be an instant CPU degrader. I guess most of us are not sponsored with CPU's so to not have people unknowingly ruin their CPU's even after a simple session. (yes I know OC is always a risk and up to me;-) as user but yes remove the 4K and instate the 1080p instead?

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    Matsglobetrotter - Core i7 8700K @ 5616MHz - 15.25 fps HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k

    in Result Discussions

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    I am using these http://www.galax.com/en/ram/galax-hof-ddr4-4000-16g-8gx2.html DDR4-4000 CL19-25-25-45 1.4V.

    Yes the timings are a bit odd as I have locked the first 17 and last number 34 while also locking the command rate at 1T and then let the Maximus do the rest on auto to see what would come out.  Primarily as I got too many 55 errors when using anything other than XMP.  Do note I am also using 2 of these memory kits thus have 4x 8GB ram.  Thus dont have one kit of 4 ram modules.

    meanwhile my focus was with the dry ice and processor/bclk speed. Will check in AIDA64 what this weird timing does compared to standard XMP.

     

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    The official HWBOT Team Cup 2018 - SC4: DDR4 thread.

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    23 minutes ago, bolc said:

    if u haven t tried: delete your 2 scores and resub the highest 7350, by retyping all the info. Do not use a previous sub info, which can m,ess up things around

    I have deleted my scores. I cant delete another members scores and even if i resub my 7350 now it will not be shown, no score recount happens as the issue persist on the competition machine

    The official HWBOT Team Cup 2018 - SC4: DDR4 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    I have sent message to fredrik

     

    Hi,
     
    for Team MLG this is the situation on the cb 15 team cup socres on ddr4.  I first submitted the I3 7350 K score which has 311.5 points per core.
     
     
    the 7350 is a 2 core thus 623/2 = 311.5 points per core
     
     
    When dragon soop submitted his i7 7740x score of 1168 my 7350 score was kicked off the table despite that my score is higher per core..
     
     
    the 7740x is a 4 core thus 1168/4 = 292 points per core
     
    currently within the team we thus overall get a 6.5 point or so lower average score than we should have and it is the difference to gain one slot in the Cb15 scoring.
     
     
    Thanks otherwise for a great competition. I really enjoy the team competition.
    Regards,
     
    Matsglobetrotter
     
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    question

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    actually i should not need to read a forum post to understand the fundamental rule for a contest. that should be pretty clear in the limitations as it is on other contests on the site;-) otherwise just link the limitations to the post on the forum...

    question

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    meanwhile i have GALAX D-4000 Mem and try upload. gut system give 500 error... and seemingly i cant have any CPU clockspeed as anything will give incomplete submission.... also to note there is no point in submitting SPD pages as hmm they are all blank on my HOF memory!!!
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