Dziarson Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Wow 1.9V I will try it , i was close You need my board . http://hwbot.org/submission/2410875_dziarson_reference_clock_ga_ep45t_extreme_685.1_mhz Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Could you please explain how you got 12.078s in 32M at 5949MHz? That's a performance product of 71852 and I haven't seen anyone else on hwbot do less than 72808 on a Wolfdale 6M. Quote
Schmuckley Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 In this guy's defense..his RAMS was frozen.. I gotta side with tapakah, though Quote
amirhosein Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 @Sam : u'r question is unfriendly.can i ask question how u get best performance in 2D's when u have 200 or 300 MHZ Distance between u and 1st place or an other place? ? do u need example? How ever 1 or maybe 2 month ago after conversation white u , around u'r huge eff .i listen to u'r advice and work on my skill i tweaked my own windows(Xp 64bit) this windows fastes than windows u give me a last year and fastes than Gxp and microxp .if broken u'r super pi record white 6.1 ,Do not be too surprised cause this windows have awsome eff in super pi .finally if u have Doubt i can share video of my 1st run wprime 1024 that resulte under 400 sec.and this record not be easy Obtained after 4 huors work and using +20L LN2 i think we are done Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Your comparison with my Pi runs is not really valid. I'm quite sure that for any "example" you can come up with, I can find at least two or three other guys with similar efficiency at lower clocks. And this is exactly my point - your efficiency is far ahead of everyone else's. I'm in no way trying to say that this is impossible, but it's very unexpected to see from someone whose previous success came primarily from raw clockspeeds. You don't need to put things on LN2 to demonstrate efficiency - in wPrime it stays pretty much the same as the benchmark doesn't react to lower RAM dividers and/or higher timings that change from air to LN2. If you can show that a time of 17.963s or lower is possible at 4000MHz (17.963 * 4000 = 71852 performance product) then you're going to get a lot less complaints from me and the other guys Quote
amirhosein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 this like wye celly +8.5 that nobody belive it until he upload the video.actually No matter, you have seen a performance like this or not.The important thing is I could get this performance and if Necessary i can do it again,u can see this valid video and pic : http://uplod.ir/1x4bi10tvif0/VIDEO0002.mp4.htm this for 32 http://uplod.ir/fn4p7743z7u5/VIDEO0003.mp4.htm this for 1024 Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 I don't see anything on the video. You make wPrime runs with unknown CPU at unknown frequency. Again, you don't need to run LN2 - 17.963s or faster at 4GHz on air is sufficient. Quote
amirhosein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) oh boy, r u kidding? u'r behavior like loser child =)) i belive that conditions white ln2 and high fsb and mem ratio is very different white Air conditions. my best try on air (ddr2) not better than 729xx and this eff is so enough for beating u(75309) white Ln2 Edited December 12, 2014 by Game Theory Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Why should I be kidding? Don't you think it's natural to ask questions whenever someone claims a 1.3% (71852 vs 72808) improvement in efficiency over best cumulative effort of thousands of people over six years, especially in a very popular 2D benchmark? I am not asking you to reveal what this "secret" actually is, I just want to see confirmation that these runs are legit. So far there is none. I think you will agree that LN2 does not make things faster on its own. So whenever you decrease the frequency from ~6GHz to ~4GHz while maintaining the same relation betwen CPU/FSB/RAM clocks and RAM timings, efficiency will remain the same. That is, if you were to run 445x9 with exact same RAM ratio, timings and performance level, you should get 12.078*661/445=17.941s (or a close time) if things are to make sense. Also, let's keep personal offense out of this discussion. Quote
amirhosein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 actually my results tell somethings eles about this discussion and different between ln2 and air . how ever here it is my best on air (72752) white different timings a little: ==================================================== after all about i Interested can u give me same proportion result for this u'r submition .let's begin white 3500 frq. plz show us no different between subzero cooling and air http://hwbot.org/submission/2297068_tapakah_wprime___32m_core_2_q9550_(2.83ghz)_7sec_994ms Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 I see that you run slightly different RAM settings on your air run. What happens when you run single channel in 1:1 with PL15 like you did on LN2? Speaking of my 37139 pp on Q9550, as promised, here is a run with 37073-37200 (depending on CPU speed wprime was actually ran at), here is another run with 37003, here is 37091 and here is 37196. Quote
amirhosein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 i asked prove u'r eff on 9550 but u give result from other guy's. growing up sam , u said no different conditions between subzero cooling and air.comon prove yourself and shown same proportion result whit u'r q9550 Quote
TaPaKaH Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 You're completely missing the point of the argument. What I am trying to say is that noone on hwbot can come even close to your efficiency, this is why I find it suspicious and ask for a proof. Please stop dragging the argument towards my Q9550 result - unlike your scores on E8400, it is perfectly in line with what is known to be possible. Quote
amirhosein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 tnx bro i get my answer ;D i hope u keep trying for get same efficiency like mine i belive u :lol Quote
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