Mundo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks for this, just picked up an i7-6700 and was hoping to up the juice on it a little. Are these BIOSes still being worked on, or were they a one-off gift to OCers? Specifically, I'm interested in C-states. Is there a hardware/technical limitation to them being disabled, or is there hope for them in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Automatically restart several hundred times, and finally able to enter a WIN10 But after shutdown and then boot, and unlimited restart @pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Thanks for this, just picked up an i7-6700 and was hoping to up the juice on it a little. Are these BIOSes still being worked on, or were they a one-off gift to OCers? Like many of you probably would have guessed and find unneeded to mention, a little disclaimer on this matter:*Overclocking Intel non-K CPUs is not officially supported by Intel and the BIOS versions created by MSI unlocking this option are all beta versions. Intel may choose to disable this option at any time. At no point MSI can be taken responsible for disabling overclocking for non-K CPUs. No official support from either Intel or MSI and no further development from our side so far. Specifically, I'm interested in C-states. Is there a hardware/technical limitation to them being disabled, or is there hope for them in the future? Absence of power management is indeed one of the technical limitations that all Non-K BIOSes share, regardless of vendor. It will (most likely) never be fixed, sorry. Edited February 1, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Your BIOS Settings, can send a photo I look at it Wait few days, I'll post a quick guide for Non-K OC. Automatically restart several hundred times, and finally able to enter a WIN10But after shutdown and then boot, and unlimited restart @pepinorang "Unlimited restart" (00-19-FF-Reboot in loop) happen on motherboards without external clockgen (Only Z170A GAMING M5/M7/M9/XPOWER include external clockgen) whenever OC fails/crash. You have to clear CMOS and turn OFF your PSU until motherboard is discharged to get it back to normal. Sometimes this issue is still present afterwards when you try to overclock BCLK, which in my case was the Intel ME firmware corrupted and re-flash BIOS via M-Flash fixed it. Edited February 1, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 BBS in China, I asked several have Z170 KRAIT, they all said that his B5T upgrade, but no one can overclocking BCLK, I think is the problem that the BIOS, you can test overclocking BCLK, is it because your CPU is ES version, like some ES version is unlock BCLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 BBS in China, I asked several have Z170 KRAIT, they all said that his B5T upgrade, but no one can overclocking BCLK, I think is the problem that the BIOS, you can test overclocking BCLK, is it because your CPU is ES version, like some ES version is unlock BCLK My ES are same stepping than retail so no difference. Furthermore these CPU don't have BCLK unlocked with normal BIOS... However I will try to find a retail i3 to show you it works perfect here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 My ES are same stepping than retail so no difference.Furthermore these CPU don't have BCLK unlocked with normal BIOS... However I will try to find a retail i3 to show you it works perfect here. If B5T is no problem, why in China, no one can overclocking success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 If B5T is no problem, why in China, no one can overclocking success I don't know what is your problem, I tried two Z170 KRAIT GAMING and I didn't see any issue. You can clearly see IT WORKS on my screenshots but I'll find a retail chip to convince you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't know what is your problem, I tried two Z170 KRAIT GAMING and I didn't see any issue. You can clearly see IT WORKS on my screenshots but I'll find a retail chip to convince you! MSI engineers have confirmed to me, is can overclocking B5T Don't know where I wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't know what is your problem, I tried two Z170 KRAIT GAMING and I didn't see any issue. You can clearly see IT WORKS on my screenshots but I'll find a retail chip to convince you! May I have a question the BIOS chip Sometimes the display is not normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 May I have a question the BIOS chipSometimes the display is not normal Does it happen with MP BIOS? Seems more like a VGA issue than BIOS, what VGA is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Does it happen with MP BIOS? Seems more like a VGA issue than BIOS, what VGA is this? Sapphire R9 370x 4g It sometimes appears in the BIOS interface As long as into the WIN10, everything is normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailtovictory Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Is there a A7 variant of the oc bios for the MSI Krait Gaming motherboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) What do you mean A7 variant? Anyway the BIOS versions posted in this thread are all we have to offer for Non-K OC. Edited February 3, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Sapphire R9 370x 4gIt sometimes appears in the BIOS interface As long as into the WIN10, everything is normal Does it also happen with MP BIOS or just with Non-K BIOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Does it also happen with MP BIOS or just with Non-K BIOS? BIOS non-K and MSI official BIOS, there will be the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishapopa Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Hi I'm having issue, I would boot into BIOS and increase the BCLK above 100, Vcore to 1.325V, DDR4 between 2300-2600 MHz, and Voltage calibration to Mode 1. Followed this guide exactly: http://overclocking.guide/msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/ When rebooting PC with OC settings, leads to the computer getting stuck in boot loop (can take up to 3 minutes) and after many retries boots into Windows with correct OC settings. When reverted to BCLK 100 MHz system boots up fine first try. Z170A Krait Gaming i5 6600 16GB DDR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailtovictory Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Hi I'm having issue, I would boot into BIOS and increase the BCLK above 100, Vcore to 1.325V, DDR4 between 2300-2600 MHz, and Voltage calibration to Mode 1. Followed this guide exactly: http://overclocking.guide/msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/ When rebooting PC with OC settings, leads to the computer getting stuck in boot loop (can take up to 3 minutes) and after many retries boots into Windows with correct OC settings. When reverted to BCLK 100 MHz system boots up fine first try. Z170A Krait Gaming i5 6600 16GB DDR4 I have the same issue but I chose to ignore it as it boots up fine with the overclocked settings and has been prime95 tested for over 12 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 BIOS non-K and MSI official BIOS, there will be the case You need to check this with our tech suport: https://register.msi.com/ Either you have compatibility issue or defective VGA, best is to check with them, they will help you out. BTW, I found retail i3 6320, but Z170 KRAIT GAMING sample is not available at the moment, I have to wait my turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I have the same issue but I chose to ignore it as it boots up fine with the overclocked settings and has been prime95 tested for over 12 hours. I tested this one, again without issue... See screenshots I posted. What's the post codes ? Anyway, I'm going to re-test all 17 supported boards with retail i3 6320, but I'm convinced I'm just wasting my time... Edited February 4, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hi I'm having issue, I would boot into BIOS and increase the BCLK above 100, Vcore to 1.325V, DDR4 between 2300-2600 MHz, and Voltage calibration to Mode 1. Followed this guide exactly: http://overclocking.guide/msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/ When rebooting PC with OC settings, leads to the computer getting stuck in boot loop (can take up to 3 minutes) and after many retries boots into Windows with correct OC settings. When reverted to BCLK 100 MHz system boots up fine first try. Z170A Krait Gaming i5 6600 16GB DDR4 me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 me too Yours is different, as you said you can NEVER boot and it's not the same board neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yours is different, as you said you can NEVER boot and it's not the same board neither. Once, waiting for a long time, can enter the system 37X122=4.5G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Once, waiting for a long time, can enter the system 37X122=4.5G How long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qihei Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 How long? About 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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