Pepek86 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 http://www.hwbot.org/community/user/RemiKo User has many scores in category SPI 1M and PiFast which is very similar in appearance For example http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835626 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835421 Screens show the same checksum and subtime but final time is different. Submit in two other cpu category http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=860610 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=836144 Screen is the same in every piksel, only final time is diffrent and submit in two cpus http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835625 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835362 Screens is doing in the same time on system Windows and location windows of cpu-z and pifast is also identical http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=860629 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=867867 Screens have exactly the same appearance of position windows It's only some examples but he has also other scores which is suspect. I think moderators should look this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narmer Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thank you Pepek for writing this post because it didn't have time for this. Moderators - please check this results... In my opinion, it deserves to ban user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 We will look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71proste Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I agree that the screens look weird, but he has also published cpuz validations which show that he has CPUs that OC well. Those validations can't be questioned, so... the mods should ask themselves if the CPU that validates at frequency x will be capable of benchmarking at frequency y. And the "setup" of his screens is quite simple so it MAY be easier to reproduce the exact same layout time after time than OP thinks. Btw, nice title. Should I call you cheater, too, if I find the smallest error in one or two submissions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_A_V Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835626 Checksum is correct. http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=835421 Checksum is incorrect Checksum checker - http://www.techpowerup.com/superpi/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstru Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I am not saying anything about this user. But regarding the Checksum checker by TPU, untill everything is official, I would not base any conclusion on it. There are some checksums that are not ok from some serious people, so I think wizzard has to look into that validator some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0mz0r Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Just a bit OT here.. I notice you're on the same team - shouldn't/couldn't this have been handled internally? *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I am not saying anything about this user. But regarding the Checksum checker by TPU, untill everything is official, I would not base any conclusion on it. There are some checksums that are not ok from some serious people, so I think wizzard has to look into that validator some more. wha? rly eek hopefully its just checksum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 lol i just went to check some of the top 20 and the first score from hipro5 doesnt even have checksum in screenshot it's covered by CPUz screen why would you guys check that and approve it if it doesnt comply with screenshot requirements even though it is George and we know he can be trusted > it still shows a bad example i'm assuming it a slight oversight from all parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepek86 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Btw, nice title. Should I call you cheater, too, if I find the smallest error in one or two submissions?? Sorry but how can I call someone who consciously modify a score?? Yes you can if I have fake scores but if I have this it is maybay only smallest but no modify a score Checksum checker - http://www.techpowerup.com/superpi/ Thanks for cheacking and give the link to checker becouse I don't know about it since extremsystem cheaker break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Sorry but how can I call someone who consciously modify a score?? Yes you can if I have fake scores but if I have this it is maybay only smallest but no modify a score You THINK it looks that way. But you're not the judge, so let the mods give the "cheater" tag to those who deserve it. And this case isn't as obvious as you think. It's no doubt he has CPUs that may be good enough for #1 in most benchmarks (his CPUZ validations show us that). The times look pretty consistent, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepek86 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm not judge so I write this topic to watch them by moderators. And in first post I never said that Remiko is cheater. I write User has many scores in category SPI 1M and PiFast which is very similar in appearance... scores which is suspect. I think moderators should look this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm not judge so I write this topic to watch them by moderators.And in first post I never said that Remiko is cheater. I write ...and the title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiborrr Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 lol i just went to check some of the top 20 and the first score from hipro5 doesnt even have checksum in screenshotit's covered by CPUz screen why would you guys check that and approve it if it doesnt comply with screenshot requirements even though it is George and we know he can be trusted > it still shows a bad example i'm assuming it a slight oversight from all parties QFT. P.S.: I don't have any tolerance towards photoshopers who post a couple of results of the same CPU in different CPU categories (the most obvious is the AMD K7 league, where you can't really know what model of CPU is used, besides the core revision (T-bird, T-bred, A-bred, Barton, Thorton)). If it was me I would banhammer him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 The best would be if Hipro was notified about this so he doesn't do the same mistake in the future. There's no reason to flag the submission if it's just a mistake type of error in a screenie that looks legit, especially if the same bencher has posted alot of submissions in the past that no-one ever questioned (which I believe is the case here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71proste Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm not judge so I write this topic to watch them by moderators. You should call me first Now let mods make a decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstru Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 lol i just went to check some of the top 20 and the first score from hipro5 doesnt even have checksum in screenshotit's covered by CPUz screen why would you guys check that and approve it if it doesnt comply with screenshot requirements even though it is George and we know he can be trusted > it still shows a bad example i'm assuming it a slight oversight from all parties If old George will ever cheat, I will cut my balls and feed them to my dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 If old George will ever cheat, I will cut my balls and feed them to my dog i am NOT saying he would i am saying that same rules should apply to old George and me and everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71proste Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 i am NOT saying he wouldi am saying that same rules should apply to old George and me and everyone else u r absolutely right hipro's spi 32m doesn't have checksum hmm...not good example especially for top 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) lol i just went to check some of the top 20 and the first score from hipro5 doesnt even have checksum in screenshotit's covered by CPUz screen why would you guys check that and approve it if it doesnt comply with screenshot requirements even though it is George and we know he can be trusted > it still shows a bad example i'm assuming it a slight oversight from all parties Ooopppsss....Sorry, I haven't noticed that.... I uploaded my newer one now... P.S. I'll smack your arsses if you ever again call me "old" you pervers.... Edited June 28, 2009 by hipro5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 P.S. I'll smack your arsses if you ever again call me "old" you pervers.... ROFL hehehe nice time and bloody nice CPU will someone ban George from HWbOT...this CPU is tooooo good hahaha j/k :celebration: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstru Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Young hipro at it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71proste Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 ROFL hehehe will someone ban George from HWbOT I can take his cpu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipro5 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ROFL hehehe nice time and bloody nice CPU will someone ban George from HWbOT...this CPU is tooooo good hahaha j/k :celebration: None has seen it's REAL clocks yet... This week I'll upload the final scores because the ones you have seen, were only some testings to find out how it works and to "learn" the cpu and the mobo ... Young hipro at it again That's the spirit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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