Vinster

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Replied. Thank you Vin

on PCMark 04, how would you get the score to be visible at the end of the bench? ORB doesn't support it anymore so how does one use this bench today? I'm not going to pay for a bench that is no longer supported. How are some of you guys getting by this? Vin

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I had he same last night... odd... Vin

I was able to do my maxmemm submission... but clicking DDR3 with my mouse didn't work (It did work before) but today I used the arrow keys. and got it in. odd issues these days, now right now I can't get to my teams page... I dunno why it loads partially and then stops.. guess I'll try again tomorrow. Vin

but that's no good for when trying to submit a memory bench... you get an error on that field. I saw this when trying to submit a MAXMEMM score. Vin EDIT: using the arrows just worked for me... that is wacked. does the developer know?

I have one that relates to this, what about PCMark04? it's still a valid bench for older CPU's (which is all I have/get) but the ORB no longer accepts an online submission. How do I get that bench to display my score so I can get atleast screenshot?

But it's odd... I get the Opps error on only UCBench 2011 and SuperPi32m... but can get to the others without an issue... the Memory selection is bad on all CPU I've tried so far. Vin

Now I can get to the maxmem submission , but can't because of the Mem type box not working... when I select DDR3, it goes blank... pic attached. Vin

Same issue with IE9 Oops. Something went wrong. We could blame this on you but it's most likely our crappy coding skills. You could try again or nudge our developpers for fixing this. Details: java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.Integer cannot be cast to org.hwbot.persistence.Application Stack trace: org.hwbot.facade.ApplicationFacadeImpl$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$155594cc.findApplicationBySafeName(<generated>) org.hwbot.web.actions.SubmitController.initSubmitBenchmark(SubmitController.java:1422) sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1027.invoke(Unknown Source) sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) org.springframework.web.bind.annotation.support.HandlerMethodInvoker.invokeHandlerMethod(HandlerMethodInvoker.java:176) org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.annotation.AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.invokeHandlerMethod(AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.java:436) org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.annotation.AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.handle(AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.java:424) org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doDispatch(DispatcherServlet.java:790) org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doService(DispatcherServlet.java:719) org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.processRequest(FrameworkServlet.java:669) org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.doGet(FrameworkServlet.java:574) javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:617) javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:290) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatcher.java:646) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.processRequest(ApplicationDispatcher.java:436) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:374) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.forward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:302) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.NormalRewrittenUrl.doRewrite(NormalRewrittenUrl.java:195) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.RuleChain.handleRewrite(RuleChain.java:159) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.RuleChain.doRules(RuleChain.java:141) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.UrlRewriter.processRequest(UrlRewriter.java:90) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.UrlRewriteFilter.doFilter(UrlRewriteFilter.java:417) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.hwbot.web.filter.CookieFilter.doFilter(CookieFilter.java:185) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.springframework.web.filter.HiddenHttpMethodFilter.doFilterInternal(HiddenHttpMethodFilter.java:77) org.springframework.web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java:76) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.springframework.web.filter.CharacterEncodingFilter.doFilterInternal(CharacterEncodingFilter.java:88) org.springframework.web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java:76) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:233) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:191) org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:470) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127) org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:102) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:109) org.apache.catalina.valves.RequestFilterValve.process(RequestFilterValve.java:276) org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve.invoke(RemoteAddrValve.java:81) org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:291) org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:190) org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:776) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:705) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:898) org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:690) java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662) Vin

I am doing some submissions and the memory type box is broken and it won't take AData as a manufacturer. and now when trying to submit I get an "Oops something is wrong" error... using the latest version of Chrome. Here's the stack trace Stack trace: org.hwbot.facade.ApplicationFacadeImpl$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$155594cc.findApplicationBySafeName(<generated>) org.hwbot.web.actions.SubmitController.initSubmitBenchmark(SubmitController.java:1422) sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1027.invoke(Unknown Source) sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) org.springframework.web.bind.annotation.support.HandlerMethodInvoker.invokeHandlerMethod(HandlerMethodInvoker.java:176) org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.annotation.AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.invokeHandlerMethod(AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.java:436) org.springframework.web.servlet.mvc.annotation.AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.handle(AnnotationMethodHandlerAdapter.java:424) org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doDispatch(DispatcherServlet.java:790) org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet.doService(DispatcherServlet.java:719) org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.processRequest(FrameworkServlet.java:669) org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.doGet(FrameworkServlet.java:574) javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:617) javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:290) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatcher.java:646) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.processRequest(ApplicationDispatcher.java:436) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:374) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.forward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:302) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.NormalRewrittenUrl.doRewrite(NormalRewrittenUrl.java:195) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.RuleChain.handleRewrite(RuleChain.java:159) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.RuleChain.doRules(RuleChain.java:141) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.UrlRewriter.processRequest(UrlRewriter.java:90) org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.UrlRewriteFilter.doFilter(UrlRewriteFilter.java:417) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.hwbot.web.filter.CookieFilter.doFilter(CookieFilter.java:185) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.springframework.web.filter.HiddenHttpMethodFilter.doFilterInternal(HiddenHttpMethodFilter.java:77) org.springframework.web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java:76) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.springframework.web.filter.CharacterEncodingFilter.doFilterInternal(CharacterEncodingFilter.java:88) org.springframework.web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java:76) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:235) org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:206) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:233) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:191) org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:470) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127) org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:102) org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:109) org.apache.catalina.valves.RequestFilterValve.process(RequestFilterValve.java:276) org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve.invoke(RemoteAddrValve.java:81) org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:291) org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyoteHandler.java:190) org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(HandlerRequest.java:291) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelSocket.java:776) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:705) org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket$SocketConnection.runIt(ChannelSocket.java:898) org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:690) java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662) Vin

^ I agree with this. that post is pretty definitive... also updating the different Bench Rules section would be handy as many people go and read those first and then posting a submission... adding to this post, having an announcements section only imo isn't enough for new members only experienced and current members. the rules of the benches should be updated to reflect this. Vin

I found this; I so miss my abit board... Vin

My abit AA8XE Fatal1ty died last month... I am sad..

unfortunately all we can do is rely on honesty of the users... now here is a question regarding the new algorithm... I have an i7-920 and a GTX580, a teammate has a i7-2600k and a 7970... he's done all of his submissions for his HW and all the benches, and I have done all of mine, but then I borrow his i7-2600K for my 3D benches using my GTX580... now because he has a 2600K and I now have a 2600K in submissions but we both have different GPU for GPU benches does the updated TPP algorithm with the /10 take in to account that the same CPU was used for 2 different GPU's or is it only for when 2 users submit a score with the same GPU? I hope I explained that question well enough.. Vin

You both bought the CPU, it's not really shared at that point as it's a transfer of ownership... can't really help that.. Vin

PCMarks are CPU benches, as for your other question I don't know the answer... but this thread is opening a ball of wax imo... Vin

Hell of a read, but everyone involved seems sincere. I've always questioned the bending of the rules of sharing.... - no sharing GPU's on GPU benches - no sharing CPU's for CPU benching - no sharing memory for memory benching... but for AM3, it's a GPU bench but the CPU affects the score more, so if I only have a 775 CPU but own GTX580, I could borrow a team members i7-2600k build and technically it's OK. same with a PCMark bench, ok to share SSD's or RAID cards as it's not specifically defined, or share GPU's increase the score but it's a CPU bench. like I did a test with my x58, only difference was with/without a RAID setup and got 3000 point better... just with a tiny raid VS single drive... I own the gear so it's ok, but what if I borrowed the drives to create the RAID with the onboard controller... SuperPi, again a CPU bench, but great ram with low timings help get a great score... so how are any of these examples OK? a score was attained because parts were used that a user didn't own. it's sharing.. then no grey area... I think it should be a clean cut no sharing at all as everything potentially affects everything... Vin

All good, I appreciate the quick reply Massman. Thanks for all this hard work. Vin

Massman, will this idea be implemented? if so is there a timeline to completion? I know you guys are busy... and I don't want to sound pushy.. I'm nearly done putting together my budget for some HW and am wondering if I should just continue to make up my own team HW list or if I should just wait for this idea to be implemented. I don't code for web apps so I don't know how much or little work this is. Vin

Great Review.

I agree with this suggestion. it would make it easier. Vin

Like a retired HW checkbox.... I like that addition to this idea. Vin

Is it possible to have a Team's hardware library, similar to a users HW library? I'm looking at getting some used (or new to me) hardware but I want to get something other team members don't have and having a teams HW library would make my search a little easier. because the only way I know how right now is to browse each one of my team-mates HW and derive my own list... Let me know if this is possible or if it's already available and I haven't figured it our already. thanks Vin