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I will hang out a second behind Zen just for ships and giggles.....

cause drama with bclk and if you need it....your out of luck on air much less cold. FIXED I'm easiliy in 8-2x range with Corsair DR Hynix @ 2666.... b-die is not the reason I am sub 8:40s. B-die is the reason I am sub 8-20's I was fooling around on C6H yesterday on new agesa with 64gb DR Was 24/7 settings 2T CR legit 24/7 to make it stable settings.......on a 1400 which I have proven to be slowest chip possible in 32m..... 4x16gb DR 64GB-------------DR Hynix 2x8gb

He goes over 4003. Which is why he is set there. Its sub 4003. Which is why my 32g DR run is irrelevant. May want to load ktk17 up in there infra if you go cold. I could not boot 5.0-5.1 and "other" software no worka due to OS tuning. Just figured give you a heads up. Its limited to 50x btw.

I been posting in thread and elsewhere. Set a global AMD fastest how is that not incentive. I no longer post scores on bot rankings. I would rather be a solution not part of the problem.

I am the ln2 guy. I got the 5 gig covered. Zens got me beat on air with giga by at least a second i am guessing. My backup beats his backup so i need to post another backup of my backups but his next backup is a backup of his backup that he backed up. Hell even i am confused now.

8:13s is still slow especially for 3600 12-12-12. Not knocking anyone just pointing out an observation. Ryzen can and is faster than 8:13s @ 4.0 with sub 3600. My run @ 3400 if 12-12-12 would have been 8:12.2 ish and i personally feel the asrock is a touch slower but my Giga boards are still in RMA over a month later...... Glad you guys are figuring it out however. Ryzen is certainly an odd ball.

I was doing some performance scaling testing for another forum other day and nailed a couple results. Seriously not even trying the goal was not 32m times and we all know Zen and I have much faster runs but what the hell lets toss them up so we can see one of Zens faster runs. First up Dual Rank. A fast result but not competitive at the top of the chart at least with this chips c14 3200 limit. Next we have a performance scaling result comparison vs DR I did for a post on another forum at c14 with Single Rank. Lets see 8:14's zen

There is already like at least 3 tweaks revealed in screenshot alone

5400-5500 is enough if the imc is good.

6:4x is easy at 5.1

Looks like we have a new AMD 32m WR.

I got hynix to work so/so but DR is faster cpc.

It creates complications but works. To many what ifs. What if it does not like high pci for example. Trust me if it was fast and reliable myself and Zen would be using it. We have put over 200 hours in learning/tuning Ryzen 32m. Still learning new tricks to this day. Win 7 is actually not all that bad...i think people just clung to xp never put time in to get 7 running 32m right. We are also bench partners 2 minds are greater than one. Boards need an ide mode tbh. A rare qualification Asus Arica has it we know it can be added. They refuse to add it even though i requested it. I wanted to try 3d01. Filled another dewar. Try to redeem my crappy 7:58 sub 5 gig time when i get some free time which is rare lately. Also will clock to whatever max of chip is and let one rip now that i worked around my 50x multi limit in k17tk. I should have been 10 secs faster. Annoyed with myself over that.

Thats probably due to using xp 32. 32 7 is also slow. Xp 64 sucks. I made a custom xp for team xs long ago for 32m. It was fast. Many are slow. Removing right stuff and not removing wrong stuff always matters with 32m. Last run cold i was limited to 50x via software. That issue is being solved next run. Hardware tune > software with ryzen. There is still room for improvements. 8:21 with 2666 mem speeds is nasty and a necessity for this chip pretuning cold. Just need to retest phase make sure it cooperates then LN2 again. The current records a disgrace. Can not allow it.

I will run a 4.0 run off on a 1400 for you. Half the cache takes a performance hit but I discussed that quite awhile ago. crappy run ( can go faster ) but gives you a ballpark target.

Here is an example of semi proper scaling. As you can see my ln2 run was "slow" ( sucked monkey balls ) target was and should be 7:48 give or take a second. If I can get a proper run in and hit the target I see no reason why sub 6 could not be done @ 5.4-5.5. Its not perfect math but scaling should be a about 9.5secs shaved per 100 MHz at this crappy memory speed. Better scaling can be had with higher mem speed.

Annoying board and cpu. gen 2 no coldbug? lol. gen 1 no coldbug? lol. got tired of the shenanigans broke mount on cpu, tossed water in the bottom of pot taaadaaa CB gone...technically speaking it acts like cold slow. No clue exhausted a ton of time on it last night. results suck due to trials and tribulations. It can go faster but whatever sub 7 5gig is done.

Forcing promontory gen 2 was the plan...but in the event of a crash or setting that forces clear cmos....stuck on 54. Simple solution. Bios 2.36 with promontory gen 2 loading @ default/bios clear etc etc..2.34 has some annoying bugs...time consuming wise...waste of ln2. Then humidity can kiss mine...i will just freeze everything. Granted it will not clock as high...i only need 5.0 for what i am doing right now. My profile was only @ 2666. Also 2.4 bios freaked out just in general even -30c...2133 was bricking an OS instantly. Bricked SPD on a stick of ram to lol... 2.34 was booting no issues up to -120c. Oh my cpu has a really bad imc btw so might be a factor.

Cold bug cpu wise @ -120 plus 98% humidity has put a damper on my taichi bench session...impossible to go up down temp wise in this humidity...everything will be soaking wet. Think we know what issue is but need a bios to default @ a certain setting or a hardmod to force the setting. Soon as you crash/clear cmos stuck on 54 colder than -120... Shame the effeciency was on par from 4.0 to 4.5 on phase...just needed colder and 5.0 run.

My board has succumbed to the all vendor issue of losing a dimm channel. Swapped various hardware still single channel....maybe i can set a useless memory oc record in single channel now. Otherwise i have a brick.

I have a theory but msi kind of tosses a curve ball. Asrock/Giga copy paste ref trace layout. Asus got creative. Clocks higher/easier..took a hit in PI for it. Normally board to board 1 sec is deviation across vendor. 10 is way out in left field. Weekends coming so is ln2. Time to make AMD look halfway decent @ PI...5.2 6:54 is making AMD look horrible at it.

Its still slow but faster...or was faster than the most recent that i tested...which i admit not tested in recent weeks. I will just show you this. Scaling or more so the lack there of is spot on and exactly what i would expect from speed bump/timing sacrifice. Hynix DR...nothing could be more head/desk than these. Both runs are at what should be prime stable..but that remains to be seen...know more in a day or so.

You on newer bios? Have you tried reverting back?

Yah they are on taichi to. No impact in times usually drives can help attain higher clocks or stabilize rather unstable memory on the platform like say Hynix DR.. ODT however impacts times. More or less the right setting is normal...wrong setting slower. We both obviously have faster times than what is posted. I have not run 32m in weeks...but plan to this week. Been busy helping the 24/7 crowd.

Hate to say it infra...and i have poked ASUS enough to be annoyed already....but going to need a K7 or Taichi....unless ASUS gets there act together. I got one more idea to push them...no clue if it will work.