Bobnova

I think I found the external bits of the internal VRM. If I did, it's EPower time. First thing though is getting an install on there that will actually overclock. I'll post a few pictures in a bit here, need to take 'em and do some classy MSPaint work. EDIT: Here we go: Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law, not responsible for bad descisions, etc. I have a hell of a time making SD cards, so it may be a bit till I can test this. Putting some appropriate voltage caps across those two MLC jobs may well help, there's about 10mV of switching ripple on the VARM line, plus any transient ripple at higher loads. This is all at idle (no display attached, no Ethernet attached, booting to a command prompt I'd assume.), load ripple will be higher. Of course, more caps may blow things to hell, who knows. If you do and it is Varm and you make WRs, if you could credit me that'd be great

So Hero (http://forum.hwbot.org/member.php?u=21712) for reasons beyond me has an overclockers.com sig banner thing. My requests that he remove it have fallen on deaf ears. Is this something the General Powers that Be can help with? I'd rather not have him fronting as Overclockers.com when he's actually on Xtreme OC.

Y'all should be sure to give MSI some coverage for "their" woefully underpowered VRM bits in compensation for them banning EPowers

If you don't tell them it isn't a MSI branded reference PCB, how would they even know?

Use white-out to write "MSI" on it

Shouldn't HT do something though?

Definitely going to be in firmware, like Haswell vcore comes from inside. Pests, all of them. Who feels like writing an OC firmware?

I'm more concerned about another point bearing benchmark that caps at 4 cores, and one that doesn't support windows OCing despite being a windows OCing program. I realize it's Intel and a massive opportunity, but it got points far too soon IMO.

Aww, my gold cup.

Congrats! That's impressive. Not what I expected this thread to be about.

Hell yes, keep up the good work!

Hero, please change your signature image. It has the Overclockers team in it, which you are not on.

That is normal, isn't it? For some people anyway.

This is fantastic. Logical. Useful. Thanks!

There's always time to beat it some more?

That's..... awesome, really. Makes me want to gank and a gank though.

The Z77 board had a tech support emailer program for Windows, but not BIOS. That's kind of cool. Wonder if their tech support is actually worth talking to. I could have sworn I read somewhere about a tech support chat built into BIOS on something. Don't remember what or where though.

Wait, you're not allowed to cheat?! I'm sure glad that's one of the rules, otherwise who knows what would have happened Cool of Intel to do this. Now I need to figure out why my 3770k scores so incredibly low, like 530 at stock.

Guess you're special

Change "complaining" to "disagreeing" if you like. I would call what you are doing complaining, however. Regardless, rather than saying that you don't like it and leaving it at that, tell us what YOU would do if YOU were in charge. How would YOU "fix" things? Example: I'm looking at shirts. They're green. I don't like green, I like black. If I want the manufacturer to change colors, should I say "Green shirts are junk"? Or should I say "These shirts would be more awesome if they were black"? If you were the manufacturer, which would you listen to? The negative person that says they're junk, or the more helpful person that suggests a fix? So far all I've seen you say is that points for "low participation" categories are junk. I haven't seen any suggestions on what you think should be done, only statements that you don't like how it's been done right now.

Instead of complaining about not liking it, tell us how you would set it up. How many submissions would you set the engine to require before scores got points?

Low participation gold cup: http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2162972_ To get that required modding the card (no published mods), then coming up with a heatsink worth a crap (used a SS7 K6 heatsink, drilled new holes, got it lined up, etc.), then actually running the damn thing. Not quick and easy by any means. Another low participation gold cup: http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2164676_ More unpublished mods, dry ice cooling, and a head to head battle for first. All for two points. Both took effort, significantly more effort than buying a lightning, strapping a pot to it and pouring in LN2. Oh wait, then there's this one: http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2168802_ That one I cast and machined a custom pot for because it has a goofy bolt pattern. In short, you have noooooo clue how much effort a 2 point gold (or 1 pt bronze) took. Alternative message that could be taken away: Some people put in work completely out of proportion to the points, because it's FUN.

Interesting, nice to know HWBot's moving into the future and away from MSPaintable SS!

What motherboard is that Mr. Scott? My AN7 hates modern CPUz.

This seems to be The New Way. XTU won't run on AMD either.