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Benching with video camera ftw! Lol

Intel can recognize IHS removed. I tried it few times and it never passed RMA

Not bad chip for cascade

Good result

Yap, PIS 2300 CL8. Those should fly much higher. I have also some crazy PIS 2200 CL7

Epower was allowed in MOA 2012

Yap, that's what I was talking on the very beginning that "cheap category - class B" isn't cheap overall

i7 SB were allowed from the very beginning but Epower also... so now it's one big mistery :D I think that someone lost a bit his mind and got really confused in those rules making it's not good for MOA

Hahahahaah So ocers can use Lightning VRM but not Asus? I hope MSI will deliver their own VRM? and datasheets for Lightnings controllers and full guides? I can understand that MSI forbids Epowers if they are going to send to participants their own "MSI powers"

Another thought... Epower can be considered as the only way of repairing burnt VGA (like Titan)... So users can't repair their VGAs? You can run stock or OC to the same level as stock VRM. How "repaired" graphics can be banned? maybe soon in contests we will be able only to use stock vgas with a protective sticker on a screw cause there was always possibility, that some part could be repaired in 3-rd party repair service

It;s my old result from January, I simply reuploaded it for PRO Cup, but soon Petri will upload his SPI score

Good to see news about it I also sent info to polish computer portals about Stilt's work

The problem is - if we can count epower the same rules as GPUs, CPUs and so on. In my opinion it can't be - cause the is no way of validating it. Second thing - it's hardmod. Can we ban hardmods? Those rules also don't apply to monitors, keyboards, PSU, memories...

Is correct that we can use Ivy in new PRO CUP?

I think that MSI overestimated few things, they thought that everyone has Epower, that those who "choose A class" have Epowers, Lightnings 7970 (for 1st stage), Titans. For others with limited budget is "class B". Also the idea of qualifier and semifinal - too much hw needed which has to be handled by one overclocker, not a team this time. And "class B" isn't attractive cause it has too low amount of tickets. I think that now there is no possibility to change it without hurting someone. MSI gained experience to create better rules in future, most reasonable stages and better choice of hardware

Agree that availability of Epower 2.0 doesn't exist now. From few months we hear only "soon, very soon". There are some updates - cause it's listed on EVGA website now. So it will be available! But it's possible that after MOA competition... I wrote to MSI few times to create their own epowers. I really don't understand why they didn't do it. They have resources. MSI is bigger company than EVGA, and they would have purpose - they want WRs during MOA, so they could create it. I can understand why GB is making their own "G-powers 2.0" only for Hicookie and Team AU, cause GB VGA department is "different" company, they don't support overclocking, no samples, they don't sponsor HWBOT and so on, even during GB contests all brands of VGA are allowed. But MSI has global MOA and wants/needs WRs. What is the sense and point of MOA? I think all the time, that such contest is a place for most skilled ocers, for which zombie isn't a big problem. I am not talking about the problem of $ now. Only about idea. I know that OC developed, that from few years we don't mod boards, sometimes even don't mod VGAs with trimpots. But if hardmods like epowers help - ocers should do them, cause it's the definition of extreme oc - to go beyond limits. So the real problems is lack of skills/availability, if MSI would have provided own epowers, it would be the best solution. I am always against changing rules. Few guys bought Titans to mod them for AOOC/MOA cause from the beginning it was clear that Titan is allowed. What about the guys who have already bought and modded titan? What if they did it with hard way (destroying NCP controller with dremel?) and card without Epower can be thrown away? Maybe zombie 2900XT can be used? But than - what's the difference. Second question is that - how it will be verified? If someone will simply set limit value? Like 1450 GPU - more is Epower. Or maybe participants will have to bench recording everything to a video file with good resolution? I understand why MSI is thinking of changing rules - some feedback, also "marketing EVGA brand" okay. They wanted WRs, so they should "forecast" it and prepare some own zombie modules, but not changing rules during the competition. I am aware that there is no good option now. Hope MSI will find a solution. Now we have dilemma. Changing rules during competition - always bad (I am aware that stage is not launched yet, but Semi Final and hw for it was planned from the beginning). Changing rules for sure will make many ocers happy (ban Epower for those who can't buy it now), but others will be unhappy and they have already spent $ - also bad, even more, cause they spent $. Changing rules to ban Titan - very bad, cause most of guys have Titan now, with epower or without. The best option would be if MSI could sell/provide to everyone their own epower. I know that there would be still argument that HW is expensive (Titan), but it was known from the beginning so everyone who entered the contest was aware of it. I hope that MOA will be a success. But this edition is a bit bad. MOA 2012 was very good, everyone agreed. There were some only minor problems like ABX and so on, but those were successfully solved with HWBOT - MSI. This edition, is one big mystery and a lot of whining, but many arguments are valid BTW I am so happy that I have my ticket for final, cause now starts soap opera

Okay, it's interesting. How it will be verified? How can we "ban" vmods?

Hope it is also stable with high mhz

old good method as on GT - each cpu under ln2

Awesome Now waiting for some benchmarks

What gaming card? Link please I will try to find out

Hahaha Those cpus really look more like "LGA" socket, not FM2

Not bad

Nice