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The 21.06 was solved also. This one is 19.39 and has been also taken care of by HWB Crew.

Fixed

As I personally know Samba I can asure you there is no cheating involved. If there was a bug involved, that's a different story, it happens to everyone.

Ticket ID: 276 Priority: High GTX 275 is here guys

Ok, I now I understand what you are saying. Crazy PCM2005

Bro, I really do not see any difference between my point and what any of the other guys posting here except you and Gautam. It's not about me, I really don't like PCM05 so much (you have to have "best appearance" set, and Windows Media Player or converter or whatever installed and so on...bleah!!! that is not a bench OS ) and I really do not care about PCM2005 so much....in fact...I pretty much dislike it, just like I really don't like Aquamark. But there are guys that do and I think that there should be a more relaxed dialogue between HWB Crew and those guys. HWB is first of all a community made of benchers, so when you want to make that kind of decisions you should also take into account the opinion of the community. It's not about what you want or about what you think, heck...if I would be HWB Crew I would probably take out Aquamark instantly, but probably that would not be fair to those who like it. Be more relaxed, see their point of view, and find a solution together. That is all that I am saying. And yes, you guys have a strong argument with 9000MB/s, we all know that that is not real. But neither are those those >1000 fps that we see in Nature or Mother Nature. Sure, you can have that ammount of FPS in an old game using new hardware, but besides the fact that most of the games have a cap, anything over a constant, solid minimum of 60-75 fps really does not matter. So the situation is kindda similar. Benching is one thing, real life is another thing

I really don't care about PCMark 2005, but I really do not like some attitude I see here. If you wanna drop a 4 year old benchmark because when it was made they wouldn't even think that HDD's could get this fast, then what about 2001, they sure as hell didn't think 8 years ago that GPU's and CPU's would get this fast. And it can only use max 2 GPU's, and it does not even scale with the latest video technology and so on.... That is not a right way to look at it. I can imagine that for some guys getting near the top must be a little frustrating to lose some points because they don't have what it takes to dominate all the benchmarks, but it is normal to be like that. Sure, everybody in the top has tremendous skills, but there are also specific skills and likes and dislikes. Real old school tweakers play 2001 and really show what tweaking is all about, with not so expensive machines. Guys with "big guns" really show their skills putting quad-GPU machines to the works and rule 2k3-2k6, guys with good Nehalem skills really kill everybody in Vantage, guys that test tens of CPU's and really have the patience to find the "one" pwn everyone in Pi 1M or CPU-Z, software maniacs really tweak that Spi 32M, guys with Skulltrails laugh in anyone's face with their WPrime scores and so on. There are enough games to play for everybody, everyone can show his skills in something, and mainstream overclockers and benchers have most of those applications to play with. What is wrong with having those CRAZY guys that use 20 SSD and thousand dollar RAID controller having their own game where they can shine? If PCM05 is their game, let them play their game, this guys that started this thread really looks that he knows what he is doing and really put some effort into this. Let them be.... And about bounderies and stuff....Hey people, newsflash...nobody uses LN2 on CPU and VGA's to play, so it really does not matter if it'a real life situation or not, it's all about if you are crazy enough to get the most points in one benchmark or not. And last time I checked that was what benching ia all about.

I totally agree, taking that into consideration into rankings is quite impossible. knopflerbruce It is hard everywhere bro, top notch tools mean top notch money everywhere, I am aware of that. In the end, that is also what passion and crazyness are there for, just like in any other hobby

Because we are continuing this conversation without any other point

I totally agree. Just that for some people is just very money consuming and for others almost impposible. And I don't know why we are still talking about this, I just said that remarks like "you must be making VERY little money if you can't afford X hardware" are not ok, taking into consideration that this is a multi national site (I know he didn't mean anything wrong, but he just forgot that there are les fortunate places in the world). I take it the official HWBot opinion is that such remarks are ok?

Georgia? C'mon, where does it says that? Romania here bro The medium official salary here is ~310 Euros / month The minimum official salary here is ~130 Euros / month Now, I don't want to eat s**t, I was making 700 Euros / month when I got into advertising, and ~ 1500 Euros / month just before I got out of that bussines, so I am not complaining about myself. But the point is that a salary of 1000 Euros / month here means you have a very good job. There are a whole bunch of guys working for way less salary than that. That is not a tragic thing, there are a bunch of things here that cost less then in more western countries. BUT....hardware is more expensive, so comparing that to a normal salary...yeah...it can be a pain in the butt. Also, think about the fact that there are OTHER places in the world where the situation is much worse than here. Why should that matter to HWBot? Well, it probablly shouldn't. But be aware that money play a BIG part in this game, not just a little one.

Careful with such remarks, there are places in the world where a GTX295 costs twice as much compared to the medium salary...

Bring be ye oldie 3DMark 99 & 2000

Where can wee see the full list like in the old days, I couldn't manage to find that...

Besides that, there will allways be problems with Crossfire set-ups

Adding a checkbox would be usefull, I totaly agre. Separating the categories is not.

Onlye with the one my team mate Micutzu did on the Intel Smackover board.

The advantage of using a high end mouse Want some more?

Baah....if you guys upset me, I'll take a Phase one P45 from a photographer friend of mine and shoot a 45MPix photo, then post it here full size

Don't worry bro, these days it happens a lot. Taking into consideration that most top 10 2k1 single card configurations look alike, it is easy to think about the results as beeing suspicious. KP's bios makes most GX2 go almost the same

Oh c'mon guys :D:D:

Fellows, all you have to do is ask. We have 3 x 9800GX2. If you want to ask us anything about the above scores, please do so. Don't just go assuming things. - The 2k1 scores are done with 2 different 9800GX2's (2 different BBN). We have another one in stand by ( An Evga I think). Besides that, I see no problem in using same mobo, CPU or OS (even though I benched on I45 and Micutzu on TP45HP). The scores are done with 2 cards, therefor complying to HWB rules. I can prove this with pictures if necessary. -The 2006 scores are done with 4 different 3870X2, on the same mobo/CPU/OS, all HIS boards. However, this I cannot prove with pics, the cards are sold a looooong time ago. Now we have 4 x 4870X2.... -"bhrams" and "brahms" is the same person, he probably made 2 accounts by mistake. Please delete one of them. So before going all "HWBot police on my ass", please drop a PM and ask us what it is all about. It is not the first time or the last time hardware configurations are the same on HWBot. I mean..heck...for 2k1 single card there is no other hardware to use except for E8600 and 9800GX2 right now...and all GX2's on LN2 go between 950-1000 core and 1000-1200 GDDR, just take a look in the top 10 GX2 in all categories and it is not so hard to see that.... Now, please tell my if there is anything else that is not clear... Link to a photo

Save the result and then submit when you have an internet connection.

Thank you demiurg for the very fast answer

I have all the required screenshots and I have a futuremark link. Why is this score blocked?