Hey guys thanks. This was a group effort, the run is slow but it's the only one that finished, we came really close to a low 4m45s at 6820 at right subs and wazza but it dropped out near the end, I'll try again.
I use electric cleaner spray a lot as I've had instances of ram not clicking the same as expected which was contact issue, don't touch the back of the chip with ya greasy fingers:p but I doubt that's the issue with James as both him and I go about this sort of stuff the same way