der8auer

Unfortunately this decision is not only up to me Otherwise it would be banned already

These are realy nice looking PCBs. Shame they don't publish them in europe.

LN2 Pot as stock cooler?

only 7 mhz to go cmon

solid score! nice work there

Nvidia out -> Vince on top Well done!

Thanks for the testing guys!

Same issue: http://hwbot.org/submission/2267562_der8auer_3dmark06_geforce_8800_gts_512_mb_25922_marks

holy nice!

Normally I think the same way: new tech = step forward. But this time I think it would be a step backwards! We don't always have to say yes to every new technique - same as we did with physx. If we don't profit from it at HWBot we don't need it. Simple as that. The only "advantage" you see is that we have a new technique. And even you say it's not a real advantage. But we have about 10 realy strong disadvantages. So where is the point adding it? Well you get 10 more hits due to MVP but lose 100 members who have enough of benching everything again because the whole hwbot rankings will be crushed because of MVP - and I will be one of them. If you add a public poll what the community thinks about MVP you will get a clear result: no ^^^^ strongly this

Yea but we can't see which refresh rate was used. So just use some tools and force the refreshrate to e.g. 12 Hz. Will look crappy as fk (which is exactly not the thing MVP is supposed to be) but you get like 400% higher scores than with normal 60Hz LCDs. Once again: What is the advantage to have MVP here on HWBot? I asked this like 5 times no but no one seems to have an answer.

selfquote ftw Still looking for a real reason why we should even add this here on HWBot? IMO there is 0 advantage for HWBot.

Thanks guys

Update Finally tested the card with LN2! The result you can see here: http://hwbot.org/submission/2266474_der8auer_3dmark03_geforce_8800_gts_512_mb_71773_marks So that's a boost of 61 MHz on LN2.

Petri can you make some pics how you insulated the memory?

Sweet looking setup, pete!

Update

Interesting. Thanks for this info. Actually I got a Z68 ASRock Board here. So will look for Virtu.

Then it's too late. We have to make a decision before the lauch or ppl will submit results and we don't know whether or how we accept them.

This decision is realy hard and I also don't know which is the right way. The easiest way is, like you said, to follow the rules of FM even tho we didn't do it in the past. We should decide which would be the best for HWBot - regardless on our own opinion. MVP on HWBot: Advantages: - Reach the highest scores possible - Be up-to-date with the newest technology - ? Disadvantages: - Results could be highly affected by updates of the software (next update gives 10% more boost -> bench everything once again...) - Limited support for different GPUs - Unsure development in the future (Lucid Hydra!) - Comparability will be affected due to different scaling on benchmarks and different cards - Multi GPU not supported (1x GPU will be even faster than 2x GPU) - ? Did I forget something?

:D

Well If I think of the material they used I could sell such a pot for almost half of the price. No it's from Japan. But they said it's not even sure whether this thing will become retail.

Yea der8auer-NDA No The bottom part is just not 100% finished and needs some polishing Also the mounting Kit is still missing.

That's a pot from REEVEN. They called it "unique product for cooling market" yea well They ask over 200$ for it which is way too much. Also the weight is only about 900g. More pics:

Haha epic Thanks my friend Ofc Didn't forget that you asked for a new pot