Rauf
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@ozzie You know nothing. It's about decreasing overall 3D points massively. And giving points where it is relevant, instead of just handing it out to anyone who mounts a 2/3/4-way setup.
Are the competition points really necessary? As I see it there are so few competitions left, and if hwbot decides to do road to pro or whatever it was called again it is not really something many considers worth benching anyway. At least not at top level.
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6 hours ago, richba5tard said:
After discussing the member points algorithm (both seasonal and carreer) with George for a bit I'd like to make a suggestion:
Instead of top X total points which count towards your member points:
- top X global points
- top X hardware points (preferably same X to keep things easy to explain, but I can be convinced if need be)
- no benchmark/worldrecord points for crazy quad sli/crossfire setups, but an award/achievement instead
This would close the gap between $$$ and skill further.
Seems a good idea. Separating globals and hw points means you cannot loose points by submitting a better (global) score because hw points are lower on the new one.
WR points are a bit outdated, I agree. But I think disabling them completely turns hwbot into 2dbot. 2d-benching is 99% about binning and then mostly running your cpu at full pot, press bench and sit back for ~30 seconds.
A better way would be to redesign the 3D structure. Decrease WR points to maybe half of todays points and give it to relevant benchmarks which scale with SLI. There is no point in giving WR points for 3D03 and Vantage for example. And then disable all globals for legacy 3D-benchmarks except single card. Giving high globals for benching 3-way 3dmark05 where single card gives better score makes no sense. Also all 3-way and 4-way rankings should no longer get globals, as it is not even supported on newest generation. This should even out the balace between 2D and 3D. If you want to reward skill in any way you should reward 3D, as it takes much more tweaking, figuring out temps, good mounts, handling more hw and pots at the same time.
Oh, and if hwbot wants to stay relevant you need to add the Time spy extreme and possibly also Port royal to the globals benchmarks. People are benching this and will continue to compete on these benches. It's just a matter of if people do it here or for 3Dmark hall of fame. With the removal of catzillas, new modern 3Ds needs to be added.
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Very nice! (I'm waiting for my GOC cards to arrive :)
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1 hour ago, richba5tard said:
No plans no, but if the community votes to add a specific benchmark I won't stop it.
I think there is need for additional modern benchmarks. Top contenders I would think are Time Spy extreme, Port Royal and Superposition.
Port Royal is actually not so bad, it scale some with both cpu freq and mem OC. Both of the other two seem fine as well.
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You are forgetting this is about global points. I'm assuming hw points are kept. Aqua is not a 3d benchmark since a long time...
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Are you adding some new (or old ones) because with the removal of catzillas there are not so many modern 3d left. Vantage is cpu benchmark, 3d11 is also very cpu dependant, at least for sli/wr points.
That leaves Time spy and Fire strikes. Fire strikes are not very good benchmarks anymore. They behave very strange some times and scale with strange things like output resolution. Especially combined test is kind of bugged.
Gpupi is not a real 3d benchmark in my book and it is nvidia compute cards territory...
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Heaven ftw! Maybe also superposition, never ran it but we are lacking in modern GPU benchmarks. Only have Time Spy which is actually a proper modern GPU benchmark. Port royal has no CPU test and only one GT, so not sure about that. Doesn't feel like a proper benchmark. More of a feature test.
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Great cpu and scores!
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I like TS physics also, but I think you need to run full test to get proper validated score?
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There's a reason there are no ln2 results
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Thanks. For FS it depends on which. For FSX and U 9900k is enough.
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Something easy. Like % of top score. Easy to understand and should be easy on the servers as only GFP/WRs require a full recalc.
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It's just more of the same old hwbot. It hasn't worked for the last few years and this will not change anything.
Don't touch the hw points, leave everything hw as it is. But change everything regarding globals/wr fundamentally. Change the site layout, change the points - give points to all submissions subbed, get rid of 90% of the benchmarks. Let's face it, 90% is junk anyway. Keep 5 3D and 5 2D benchmarks. Have one individual ranking based on top 10-20 scores in the 10 benchmarks.
Edit: btw, get rid of competition points also. How many comps will there be in 2019, 2 maybe? Team cup and country cup...
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Nice one! Older version allows higher freq yes?
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Thanks! What's strange about the sata ports?
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Card is sold, can be closed.
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Since the cards are sold out I thought I'd give anyone who still wants a shot at GOC 2018 a chance. Card is treated with LET. Full retail package with waterblock included.
Only tried it once on ln2, but card is good. 2565 time spy, http://hwbot.org/submission/3971840_rauf_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_rtx_2080_ti_18972_marks
Price is 1750€ shipped in EU. Be fast, I will go on vacation on tuesday, have to ship on monday. Will add photo later today.
Rauf - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti @ 2670/2150MHz - 23653 marks 3DMark - Fire Strike Extreme
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