knopflerbruce Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 F7 creates a cvf file, and F5 creates a .bmp file with no id (because it's just a screen of the cpuz window). To my eyes, such a screenshot looks exactly the same as the one you call cheating. To upload as an attachment I have to convert it to jpg, and I'm too lazy to do that. Try it. Btw no id on these screens either: http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=27574 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=24729 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=23739 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=44352 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=18626 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=53782 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=44398 (black line on top, compare that to the white line on bwana's screens) http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=16529 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=16552 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=79911 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94120 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=93888 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=95221 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=93899 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94736 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94118 No mem tab on these, btw: http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=79913'>http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=79913 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=96822 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=79913 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94124 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=93896 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94738 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=93902 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=94131 http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=95217 IMO this sounds alot like someone wants Bwana's first spot, but don't feel like benching his ass off:p You don't have to be a rocket scientists to figure out who will benefit from banning Bwana... As for the last couple of screens submitted by Gradus, I know something is weird about the two imageshack pictures. But so what? Bwanasoft's scores were correct:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 F7 creates a cvf file, and F5 creates a .bmp file with no id (because it's just a screen of the cpuz window). OMFG!!!!!!!!! LOOK AT SCREEN!!!!! You are blind? No voltage window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 OMFG!!!!!!!!! LOOK AT SCREEN!!!!!You are blind? No voltage window! Jeez, I'm not sherlock holmes;) But - with the VERY little knowledge I have about CPUZ - I have no chance of explaining that one. Indeed a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pahen Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleybro Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Just figure I would throw in my two cents. I am sure I have tons of cpu-z screens oc'd that don't show voltage. It used to always happen when pushing the voltage too far. I think I saw it most in FX-57 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I think I saw it most in FX-57 days. with old cpu-z? can you show screen with no voltage on 1.42? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 +1 This thread is messy already, PLEASE don't spam here:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 If we want to find out if these results can be duplicated in a normal way, we have to try a socket a rig I think;) CPUZ has weird bugs sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServerManiac Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Ban Bwana! His so-called bugs are impossible to repeat I've played with Vistamizer and I wasn't able to get multiple windows active like Bwana has His bugs with voltage, cpu id, processo and palomino stepping are apparent to be deliberately painted in photoshop/gimp/mspain/other software. MOD: Use appropriate language. If not, I will save you a seat in the chill-out room. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServerManiac Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It was just an advice for you guys when to ban Bwana I think there was nothing innapropriate in that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanasoft Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 OMFG!!!!!!!!! LOOK AT SCREEN!!!!!You are blind? No voltage window! use damged cpuz file verifed at cpuid - then come text "not verified" i save this screen from my CPU BENCH and upload. I become no ID ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 use damged cpuz file verifed at cpuid - then come text "not verified" i save this screen from my CPU BENCH and upload. I become no ID ! From CPU BENCH? What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 It was just an advice for you guys when to ban BwanaI think there was nothing innapropriate in that post Last sentence was (the one I editted ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanasoft Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 From CPU BENCH? What is it? I want tell thats my CPU and i have it benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanasoft Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Ban Bwana!His so-called bugs are impossible to repeat I've played with Vistamizer and I wasn't able to get multiple windows active like Bwana has His bugs with voltage, cpu id, processo and palomino stepping are apparent to be deliberately painted in photoshop/gimp/mspain/other software. MOD: Use appropriate language. If not, I will save you a seat in the chill-out room. Thanks hmmm quali is not good but tells other http://85.31.186.71/web9/Bwana/Neuer%20Ordner/P1020324.mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaJ0r Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=677612 great result, but where is validation? If it is then ID with Screenshot, if it is not present then core voltage must be represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted April 15, 2008 Crew Share Posted April 15, 2008 jmke, you replied on two non-informative posts, but didn't say a word on Gradus' arguments, though asked for them. Isn't that irrational? Well, I not such a braincracker as Gradus to check every CPU-Z screen, whether it's text boxes are on the right positions, but this is a quite good one. Gradus, the AMD Athlon text in the CPU string can be achieved if the MoBo doesn't know the processor. It gets it's CPU string (named in CPU-Z specification) from the frequency table, but if it's o/ced, then it doesn't find a propriate and writes a default text, exactly this one. But this can't explain the position of the text. And can't explain the screen with "Processo" string. Should be Processor And again, jmke. A man shows you an invalid screenshot, but you show him his invalids. In this thread we discuss a certain subject. But you're reversing the situation to the author. Try to find at least 5-10 inproper screens of mine that's not the theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I want tell thats my CPU and i have it benched. and? %))) ОК. This is yours screen CPU-Z 1.42: And mine: Where ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=706985great result, but where is valid screenshot? It not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaJ0r Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 jmke Aquamark validation? Hmm. you can delete this result but not forget to do it all for whom alike screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 please do explain the difference, how do we know that screenshot was not just re-used from another hardware setup? where's the proof? nah. I agree! BUT i show you screens with real bugs, not the screen with aqua or mark with no info. I can show many screens like this from bwana. ps nah?!? So after he has posted 1000 results and build a reputation; that same user will go and photoshop a few results to get a few more points and risk all his previous scores, his position, his trust and friends and hobby? Yes. If he have mspaint screens. And he have 100+ with bugs. I can post not deleted results with bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradus Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 but not talking about hundreds here, about 5-10, any of those scores recent? I talking about deleted results + part still on site(not http://www.hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=18499&postcount=87). I don't sure that they with photoshop or something like that, but they with bugs. Example Geode NX-1250+(look at stepping and revision): http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=63741&thumb=false ps 7 results with bug only from 1 cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 95% of the deleted results were deleted because of the glitches mentioned before (Vistamize/dual monitor setup) and that leaves us with 10-20 results which are strange, most of the results are with the same processor, so about 3-4, maybe 5 different processor glitches. 20 issues on 1200 results is ~ 1,67%, which is not significant enough to instantly ban someone. Anyway, we're talking this through again, taking every opinion/fact into account and will have a solution as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanLV Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 20 issues on 1200 results is ~ 1,67%, which is not significant enough to instantly ban someone. Anyway, we're talking this through again, taking every opinion/fact into account and will have a solution as soon as possible. These results are results in which "drawening" at drawing has made a mistake. I can draw much more than 1200 results and I shall be mistaken it is much less. And you me not ban me? Let's transform HWBOT into competition who less time will be mistaken at drawing?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanasoft Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I talking about deleted results + part still on site(not http://www.hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=18499&postcount=87). I don't sure that they with photoshop or something like that, but they with bugs. Example Geode NX-1250+(look at stepping and revision): http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=63741&thumb=false ps 7 results with bug only from 1 cpu the Geode run´s without any Mistakes at ASROCK Board with VIA CHIP ! when you take it on a NF2 Board say T-Bred CPU. And CPU Z tells lot of Mistakes. Hey i build Computers when somebody play trumpet under the Christmasthree, i know how Computer works and Programms and be shure when i want fake a screen i can fake it ! And nobody see it. Think i bench CPU BOARDS and RAM over the Limit ! At the benches for S462 i need 3 Boards - 25 CPU ( all Blow up ) and at this morning i blow up a brandnew Power NT at S462 ! I don´t need any FAKES. I´m old enough i´m not a child. i use my time for work or make other funny Hobbies. But back to Topic it´s this to high for someone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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