TheGamingBarrel Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Board is about to be sent off, want to be rid of it when it gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheMadDutchDude Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 You should probably say that it's Z97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 You should probably say that it's Z97. I don't recognise the Z170 SO Force as a real soc force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 It's a pretty strong board--you should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheMadDutchDude Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Except for its RAM OC ability. But that's all going to change very soon....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I dunno man, I think I've got it figured out at this point. 3800 12-12-12 no issue so far. Not sure if my B-Die is up for more but I'm still working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkim Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Sorry for OT but whats the difference between Z97X-SOC and Z97X-SOC FORCE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheMadDutchDude Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 SOC is the cheaper variant with less phases and the FORCE is the proper deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't recognise the Z170 SO Force as a real soc force You don't ? Have you REALLY worked with this board ? Well, it is obvious that either you have not, or you are missing a few things. I currently own : AsRock OCF. A board I will never sell, even when I acquire the M-OCF. Asus M8E. Gigabyte Z170X- SOC - FORCE Leaving alone the OCF ( there is no current substitute ), The SOC-Force is right behind and a lot better than M8E. To the point that I sold the M8E today to a friend and ordered an Impact for some "special needs" I have. If you do have a Z170X SOC FORCE, love it and work with it to make her tell you her secrets. And you will be amazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 You don't ? Have you REALLY worked with this board ? Well, it is obvious that either you have not, or you are missing a few things. I currently own : AsRock OCF. A board I will never sell, even when I acquire the M-OCF. Asus M8E. Gigabyte Z170X- SOC - FORCE Leaving alone the OCF ( there is no current substitute ), The SOC-Force is right behind and a lot better than M8E. To the point that I sold the M8E today to a friend and ordered an Impact for some "special needs" I have. If you do have a Z170X SOC FORCE, love it and work with it to make her tell you her secrets. And you will be amazed I chatted with him a bit about that board. He was running into the same issue I was for a long time that caused me to curse the board too. It didn't seem capable of overclocking memory at all. It turned out to be the DRAM Training Voltage. This voltage defaults to 1.50V, no matter what is set for DRAM volts.... so when setting 1.85V or so, the memory was only training with 1.50V and would always fail to boot. With DRAM Training Volts set manually, the board has no issues running memory nice and tight :ws: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I chatted with him a bit about that board. He was running into the same issue I was for a long time that caused me to curse the board too. It didn't seem capable of overclocking memory at all. It turned out to be the DRAM Training Voltage. This voltage defaults to 1.50V, no matter what is set for DRAM volts.... so when setting 1.85V or so, the memory was only training with 1.50V and would always fail to boot. With DRAM Training Volts set manually, the board has no issues running memory nice and tight :ws: Yes, it is a fact. But the same applies to many other top end boards too. Training voltage must be set manually. Also, Skylake memory controller, in conjunction with B-die, does NOT like high VccIO. Anything above 1.16V and it does not train. Even at 4000 - 12-12-12-28-200-1T that I can run my B-die on OCF. There are two key voltages for pushing high and tight. VccSA up to 1.35V AND VccPLL to 1.30V, which despite being mainly a BCLK voltage parameter helps enormously with mems. Cheers:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Mine will train with 1.35V on VCCSA and VCCIO and run fine. Still working on getting 3866 12-12-12 stable though. Will try to push VCCPLL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Nope. It might train with 1.35VccIO, but during OS operation and benching, this high voltage creates a lot of strain on the memory controller. Try lowering below 1.20V and see how it goes. Ideally you should not exceed 1.18V. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 By the way guys, I was talking about price Z97 SOC And the X99 SOC (CHAMPION AND force) are dirt cheap. (Haven't had internet to post that ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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