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Gorgeous indeed!

Would you explain a little about the issue of the SF600 On/Off button not fitting?  You mean, the button physically has conflict with the frame vertical support?  If so, how did you solve it?  From Steacom pic, I see that a PSU is supposed to have the 4 screws at the 4 corners.  But it seems you are using the 2 mid-height ones and the lower right corner one.  Secure enough?

 

You are using the stock cables of the SF600.  When I build mine in Q3 this year, I might use custom cables in order to get them shorter length.  Would you mind estimating the length of the cables (24-pin, 8-pin EPS and PCIe 8-pin) that actually is needed?  Really appreciate your help here.  Are the stock cables too stiff?

 

Thirdly, I see you have two BC1 Mini.  How is the 2nd one doing?

 

Again, thanks for the build gallery. 

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@marcoliu - hope you are well. It was the plastic shroud around the button, not the button itself but the little shroud around the button that conflicted with the vertical legs. Solved it by force and multiple tries i guess, yes it is quite secure now. The default stock length of the cables of the SF600 were a very tight fit, I would like to have 2 or 3 cm more, yes they are stiff but not too much. I am indeed a proud owner of a BC1 silver and a BC1 Mini silver, can't recommend both enough.

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From the pics, it looks like there are some 'slack' of the cables of the SF600 and so I am surprised by your wish of having longer cables!  I guess I will have to find it out myself when I build mine.

Also, from the pics (#2, 9, 12), it looks like the motherboard has some 'sagging', probably due to weight of the HSF?  Is it just an optical illusion due to angle of the camera or is there really a little bit? 

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The slack of the cables it is a illusion, the cables themselves are kind of stiff and it was a very tight fit, I still wish they were a tiny bit longer. You are correct, the motherboard does have a bit of 'sagging'.

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@Trouffman Congrats to the team for making the OBT possible, it is a great platform with tremendous potential.

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On 3/18/2018 at 7:56 AM, luakri said:

@marcoliu - hope you are well. It was the plastic shroud around the button, not the button itself but the little shroud around the button that conflicted with the vertical legs. Solved it by force and multiple tries i guess, yes it is quite secure now. The default stock length of the cables of the SF600 were a very tight fit, I would like to have 2 or 3 cm more, yes they are stiff but not too much. I am indeed a proud owner of a BC1 silver and a BC1 Mini silver, can't recommend both enough.

I now know exactly what you meant by the plastic shroud having physical conflict with the vertical support.

I just begin to setup my BC1 Mini with Corsair SF600 Gold and experience the same problem.  After putting some effort, I managed to install 3 screws, all being on the same side (ie the side away from the power button). 

So, as both you and I have the same problem, this may suggest that this is not a random or casual issue between the BC1 Mini and Corsair SF600 Gold.  I am not sure if this is Corsair's issue or Streacom's issue.  The product of either one of them is likely to be out of spec.  I have not seen many builds based on the BC1 Mini and so I do not have enough data to conclude any other PSUs having similar problem.  Maybe Silverstone's SFX PSUs are OK?  Maybe Corsair's newly released SF600 Platinum is OK? 

Anyway, my PSU is secured enough.  Even though I am a 'perfectionist', I will have to let this go.

Now, I wait for Asus Z390i Gaming mobo + i7 9700K + GTX1170/1180.

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@marcoliu glad to hear that you managed to install the Corsair SF600 Gold securely. Looking forward to see pictures of your BC1 Mini build soon.

@Trouffman @Xyala Regarding the BC1 Mini integration with Corsair SF600 Gold, both me and @marcoliu had issues securing the psu to the BC1 Mini, can this be a isolated incident with this psu?

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Even if it is Corsair SF600 Gold that is out of spec, I do not think Corsair will bother to rectify this for the compatibility sake of an OBT. 

And, if I can assume that Corsair SF450 and the new SF600 Platinum might have this same problem (as they just look exactly the same as far as the location of the six mounting holes in relation to the power switch is concerned), then Streacom/OBT might consider improvise the BC1 Mini in the next revision. 

One potential solution is:- I notice the 3 mounting holes along the 2 vertical legs are not of the same size.  The upper and the lower ones are circular while the middle one is an elongated circle.  I guess, if the upper and the lower holes are also made as an elongated circle, there is a chance that a screw can pass through a support leg of the BC1 Mini and reach into the mounting holes of a Corsair SF450/600.  It just might work although, of course, I am not sure.

Anyway, I will upload some pics of my BC1 Mini build when it gets some progress.  So far, it is just the bench with the PSU.  Nothing really too exciting.

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@marcoliu @luakri Thanks for reaching out with this !

Please upload pics of the problem so we can understand better :)

The tricky part with PSUs are that... even as there are specs and form factor... this is completly the wild west regarding connectors or worse... placement of the power button or extra connectors on PSUs.

Obviously it is always a tough battle between design, compatibility and... trying to accomodate every use case. We will be looking into that for sure !

 

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I am uploading 5 pics.

1) showing the entire view.  I have the 3 screws installed on the right without problem.

2) a close-up of the Corsair SF600 Gold power button.  Note the surrounding rectangular shroud hitting the BC1 Mini support.  This, sort of, prevents the PSU to 'go down' just a little bit so that the 3 holes on the left can line up with the BC1 Mini's holes.  I have thought about of using a file to 'scratch' off the corner and the bottom of this shroud but then I am afraid that local Corsair dealer will use this as an excuse to refuse warranty service.  So, I refrain from doing this.

3) a close-up of the top hole (SF600's hole does not line up to the BC1 Mini's.  Very far off.)

4) a close-up of the middle hole (BC1 Mini has an enlarged circular hole but still does not align with the SF600 Gold's screw hole.  I think there is a chance that I can force a screw in but I decide not to as I am afraid of any permanent damage)

5) a close-up of the bottom hole

 

Thanks for looking into this.  I think this 'incompatibility' affects Corsair SF450/600 Gold and Platinum series.  Because the SF450/600 are so popular with SFF build, this is really worthy to investigate.

 

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@marcoliu thank you for posting pictures with a great macro exposure, it really illustrates the situation.

Yes, the psu corner shroud is a bit annoying. Could only fit the screws in opposite sides.

 


 

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Even though my current having all 3 screws on the right side is secure, I think luakri's having screws on both sides is even better.

So, I have finally managed to have 1 screw on the left middle position and 2 screws on the right upper and middle positions.

The trick to do this is to install a screw to the left middle position first.   With that screw in, I then need to 'rotate' down the SF600 a little tiny bit (by force due to the fact the plastic surround shroud of the on/off switch hitting the frame) and then the 2 screws can be installed.  Hopefully, this procedure can be useful and helps someone with a SF600/450 and a BC1 Mini.

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