Chiller Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 online verification submission is reliable, manual not, there are always cheaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komadyret Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Chiller, online wprime auto-submission is not reliable. That crap can't even read a correct cpu id or correct speed if you use software OC tools ot get those few extra MHz after you've launched wprime. I'd prefer manual with SS any day over that mess, as it gives much more info to judge a result by than the info automatically posted by wprime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchZowner Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 If somebody wants to cheat he can cheat. But screenshot only is making it way easier. How difficult do you think it is to ms paint a score and alter the cpuz numbers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 It's possible to speedhack 3DMarks. Are verification links better than screenshots? It's always possible to cheat; removing the cheaters from the scene, that's what moderators are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchZowner Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 You can see the test details on speedhacked 3D Marks and spot a cheat. With a plain screenshot, how will you be able to detect if for example I edit the wPrime v1.55 result window and copy paste edited CPU-z windows with altered info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 As Wprime is all about CPU performance, a 'performance product' is p-e-r-f-e-c-t ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchZowner Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 You didn't get my point man. Let me make this clear ( although I wouldn't like to mention this at all, but... ): I'm a smart cheater ( that's an example, not speaking about myself lol ), so I visit HWbot and check the wPrime 1024m rankings. I found a Dual Xeon system clocked at 4050MHz with X amount of RAM clocked at Y MHz, scoring 100s. I find a screenshot of wPrime 1024m with two CPUz windows open, I open it up in paint, change the results in the wPrime window, change the details in the CPUz windows to nearby/similar frequencies and then post the score. Yes, here's my Dual Xeon system at 4010MHz with X amount of RAM clocked at Y-z MHz, scoring 101s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 ... you put hundreds of hours in cheating, get caught once and see your account banned. You wasted a part of your life you'll never get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 You can always disable global boints, perhaps... Then 500-1000 users will lose boints. Disabling hardware boints as well shouldn't really be an option with such a massive amount of results. Some of us spend alot of cash on parts and cooling to get those boints, and we wouldn't do that just for cups. Plus, most wPrime hardware cups come from manual submissions already. So... hardware boints only, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 time to look for another multicore Pi/prime application with an author who actually wants to cooperate with HWbot. My command and project have big experience in developing benchmarks with anticheat protection. For example CUDA Factorial Benchmark - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=233280 or TOC F@H Bench - http://total-oc.ru/download.php?id=52 (page in Russian) We can modify one f them for HWBot.org or make new benchmark on pi\prime algorithms I can discuss about any variants, you can send me PM or always find me on ur forum - http://total-oc.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=58 (this is english threads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 We have enough pi benchmarks I think. Prime sounds more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 CUDA Factorial Benchmark use Factorial algorithms and can use multithreading for 128 cores CPU And already have anticheat protection. Prime algorithms are very various, we can use some intresting of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 jmke Ок, I am understood your thought. I think, we can write benchmark with this function. We try to use Prime algorithms and will make this test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 How heavy load it must be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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