PLEASE ADD OTHER HARDWARE THREAD:

[Christian Ney]

http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/thunder_n3600m_(s2932)/

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/opteron_2224_se/

[RomanLV]

Please add Geforce 6800 AGP 128bit(or any nv40 & 128 bit). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121216

Better just in case all nv40 & 128 bit (DDR1/2/3, XT/GS/GT...)

[havli]

Please add this board:

ENMIC 8TTX+

 

 

thx.

[Strunkenbold]

added:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/8ttx+/

[RomanLV]

Please add:

6800 nv40 128bit

 

AIW 9000

 

AIW Rage 128

 

3Dlabs Permelia 2V

 

TNT2 M64 8Mb (16&32 has already)

 

Separate (add 8Mb versions):

Riva TNT

 

Riva TNT2 M64 Vanta

 

Thanks

[Strunkenbold]

added http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/permedia_2v/

 

About those TNT versions, our general guide line is not adding cards based on memory size anymore. There are lots of categorys which should not be there anymore because of this. But things take time, tools to do this comfortably are not working at the moment.

The only exception would be if it has some huge performance impact.

 

The rest is still being discussed.

[havli]

Wait a minute - so this means the existing categories with different RAM capacity are getting merged? I don't think this is a good idea. Cards with more RAM overclocks worse most of the time... so they would be in disadvantage. Also they tends to have lower stock clocks. In some benchmarks this is compensated by better performance (3DMark 06 128MB vs 256 MB). But mostly the performance is the same at the equal clock.... and lower in absolute.

 

For example these two FireGL X1:

 

http://hw-museum.cz/view-vga.php?vgaID=68 -> http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/firegl_x1_128/

http://hw-museum.cz/view-vga.php?vgaID=186 -> http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/firegl_x1_256/

 

Obviously the 256MB version is much harder to overclock and because of AGP Pro it can't be used on fastest AGP motherboards like AM2NF3-VSTA or 4core-Dual-sata2.

[Christian Ney]

Following this logic we would split for example:

R9 290X 4GB

R9 290X 8GB

 

Unless there is a specs change other than memory amount and/or performance difference cpc, they should be merged.

[havli]

Well, 290X 4GB and 8GB are ok as one category. The overclock doesn't differ much and 4GB is more than enough for all benchmarks at the moment. So no problem here.

 

I'm sure there are plenty of VGAs like 290X (no performance and OC difference). These can be merged for sure.

 

The opposite example is GeForce 2 MX. 32MB overclocks better and because of that it is faster in 3DMarks 2000 - 2003. 64MB wins in Aquamark because it is less dependent on AGP texturing in there.

 

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce2_mx400_32mb/

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce2_mx400_64mb/

 

I guess this is not the only case...

 

 

So the conclusion - I agree to merge some categories but others should remain separate. It is going to be difficult to decide. And even more difficult in case of adding hardware that isn't in the database yet.

[Strunkenbold]

This is exactly the problem. Old cards need to be decided individually. Thx for the example.

[RomanLV]

There are very many categories with different memory size. I, too, for the merge with different size.

But if merge - then all the. If the separate - too everything. Now I see many categories separates. So why my videocard worse than others?

For example - Riva TNT. Why is there a separation of 32 and 16, but there is no 8? Or make only one Riva TNT, or separate 32, 16 and 8.

I so think

PS And I do not understand - the division because different overclocking (I believe nonsense), because different performance on the same clocks (nearer the truth) ... or other reason?

PPS And what about 6800 128bit? The same thing - theare are is 256bit and 64bit (what is this videocard generally?) but no 128bit (production is not noname - ASUS, to which I gave the link)

Edited August 17, 2015 by RomanLV

[RomanLV]

added http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/permedia_2v/

Thanks

Edited August 17, 2015 by RomanLV

[RomanLV]

By the way, about 6800 - AGP 6800(nv40)+DDR3 absent too

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-7.html

[Strunkenbold]

By the way, about 6800 - AGP 6800(nv40)+DDR3 absent too

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-7.html

 

its already here:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_6800_gs_nv40_agp/

 

You can see, adding just more and more without research ends in a db which is bloated with incorrect entry's. Already today its too hard for the user to decide which is the right category for his card. We are working on this but its very hard. Until now, I found alone 17 variants of 6800 AGP.

[RomanLV]

its already here:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_6800_gs_nv40_agp/

 

Well... Really it is the same thing, But will it the right (by the current rules) to post the video with ID 6800 in the category "GS"? (would it not be blocked this result for discrepancy?)

 

 

You can see, adding just more and more without research ends in a db which is bloated with incorrect entry's. Already today its too hard for the user to decide which is the right category for his card. We are working on this but its very hard. Until now, I found alone 17 variants of 6800 AGP.

 

Yes, as I wrote above, many superfluous categories. But the rules have to be one for all. If merge - then all. If the separate - then all too. So while there is a division in the other categories, I insist that it must be in all. Otherwise - it turns unfairly.

 

PS May be make it easier

example:

6800 series nv40 DDR1

6800 series nv40 DDR2

6800 series nv40 DDR3

6800 series nv41 DDR1

.........

................nv42.....

.........................

...............nv45...

 

ets

?

 

Anyway amount pipelines does not matter (it will unlocked, so 6800 @ 16/6 = 66800GT @ 16/6)

 

Or

6800 series nv40 (8/4) DDR1

6800 series nv40 (8/4) DDR2

6800 series nv40 (8/4) DDR3

6800 series nv40 (12/5) DDR1

6800 series nv40 (12/5) DDR2

6800 series nv40 (12/5) DDR3

6800 series nv41 (8/4) DDR1

....................................

..............nv41 (12/5)

etc

 

(If unlocked pirepines take as overclocking)

Edited August 18, 2015 by RomanLV

[havli]

Please add:

 

Asus PCH-DL

http://hwbot.org/submission/2957756_havli_black_hole_benchmark_xeon_3.2ghz_%282mb_l3%29_3604_marks

 

thx.

[Strunkenbold]

http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/pch-dl/

[StingerYar]

Please add processor AMD Sempron 2600+ (Socket A, thoroughbred)

http://valid.x86.fr/vr3u1u

 

Thanks!

[Strunkenbold]

Already there

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=sempron_2600_plus_thoroughbred

 

Maybe was hard to find? Fixed name scheme from "Socket A" to Core name.

[StingerYar]

While searching "2600+" i get only those:

 

Athlon 64 2600+

Athlon 64 2600+ Clawhammer

Athlon MP 2600+ Barton

Athlon MP 2600+ Thoroughbred

Athlon XP 2600+ Barton

Athlon XP 2600+ Thoroughbred

Athlon XP 2600+ Thorton

Athlon XP-M 2600+

Mobile Sempron 2600+ (Albany)

Mobile Sempron 2600+ (Dublin)

 

As you can see there's no Sempron 2600+. But anyway thanks for help. Next time I wont be lazy and will check hardware page as well

[Strunkenbold]

Well there are simply too many 2600+ in db. Should have appeared when you enterd Sempron 2600+ though.

[RomanLV]

Please add:

6800 nv40 128bit

 

AIW 9000

 

AIW Rage 128

 

3Dlabs Permelia 2V

 

TNT2 M64 8Mb (16&32 has already)

 

Separate (add 8Mb versions):

Riva TNT

 

Riva TNT2 M64 Vanta

 

Thanks

 

Thank you for your quickly added nv40, AIW-s and and many others

Thank you for what the for "others" is added same as for "their"

Thank you for fair play!

:banana:

[RomanLV]

Dobavili iz kuchi vozmozjnogo tol'ko samuyu kakashku - na ot'ebis' kak govoritsya.

[Strunkenbold]

Thank you for what the for "others" is added same as for "their"

Thank you for fair play!

 

There is simply a plot against you!

 

No serious, I need more time to make these changes. Its on my todo list. But there is much on my todo list.

[RomanLV]

There is simply a plot against you!

 

No serious, I need more time to make these changes. Its on my todo list. But there is much on my todo list.

 

So I'm saying.

 

On halvi has time (all added for 1-2 days). But for me more than a month do not have time to add 6800. AIW - ok, only 2 weeks ago . With different memory size I did not understand - my add or remove others.

 

If there is a process global rework of database - you could write about it? Rather than ignore. And write including will remove a different size or to add? Though something to write and not to ignore.

 

 

PS Exactly the same neglect everywhere.

Somewhere one year ago complained VantaLT category (there are no results LT - all (ALL!!!) results is nonLT). Reaction moderators - zero). No time, yes )))

That's what I remember, there were repeatedly ignoring

Edited August 29, 2015 by RomanLV