Aleslammer

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. From my quick scan at work applied the 5 stages to the 5 divisions in the example, sorry.

I haven’t watched the video so I might have missed something; the txt version is a little vague as to what constitutes a division. My general concern is how being locked in a particular division might affect how I spend my hobby’s monies and would like to get an idea what impact if any this might be to my future hardware purchases for league and present team activities.

Would you please add a 1216 HE either socket 1207 or AM2. Most of the other 12xx cpus are in socket 1207 but are AM2. Thanks

The example that I saw on TV was in relation to an aircraft that had gone missing and possible causes, one of which was flying into thunderheads with possible ice forming from liquid water on the air speed indicators causing a failure of the auto compensators. The example showed a small metal rod as the contaminant being inserted in a glass beaker causing spontaneous freezing of the water, I don’t remember seeing any protective gear other than a gloves for the rod and beaker but I wasn’t paying that much attention. No argument with presented fact but assuming the plane was around 11500 meters one would think there would be less than one atmosphere but really don’t know the conditions present in a thunderhead, just trying to put the two together. Nova #3807H Crash of Flight 447 Copied this out of the transcrpt JOHN WILLIAMS: One of the things that we're interested in is what were the conditions at 35,000 feet? What kind of ice or liquid was there at that altitude? NARRATOR: John Williams turns again to the new NASA satellite images. JOHN WILLIAMS: One of the first things we want to do is try to figure out what the temperatures were at that level. NARRATOR: He creates a cross-section, showing the temperature at different altitudes. JOHN WILLIAMS: What it shows, starting at the surface and going up to the top of the atmosphere—they were flying at this level here, and you can see that the temperatures were about 40-below at the time and location of the accident. NARRATOR: Minus 40 may seem extremely cold, but, in fact, it's much warmer than is usual at 35,000 feet. These unusual temperature readings suggest than an unusual phenomenon may have occurred. JOHN WILLIAMS: What we've found out from this analysis is that it's possible that there was supercooled liquid water at the altitude of the aircraft. NARRATOR: Supercooled water is a weird quirk of physics where extremely pure water remains liquid at temperatures well below freezing. In 32 years experience, Tony Cable has never actually seen this phenomenon up close. The purified water in these bottles is well below its normal freezing point, but it's still liquid. Ice crystals can only grow around tiny particles like impurities or bubbles. When Cable inserts a metal tube... TONY CABLE: Hey! NARRATOR: ...instant ice. TONY CABLE: That is incredible. JOHN WILLIAMS: The fact that air is really clean over the oceans suggests that if there is supercooled liquid water in the atmosphere, and an aircraft flies through that, those little droplets are ready to freeze as soon as they hit a surface.

The compressor concept, would that include commercial walk-in freezers, would that also apply to an air compressor for use with a Vortex spot cooler? Water ice can be as cold as the device making it can produce or chilled with dry ice; pure water can stay in a fluid state well below freezing (drew my attention when I saw it on PBS) but would be next to impossible to do in normal loop but doable if the motivation existed. Do we need another league for the in between cooling solutions. How about TEC has limited use with modern hardware but drop back a few generations and it becomes very practical. Personally have no problem with fluid/air chillers that produce temps in line with the normally occupied latitudes but how many would start changing coolants maybe a cascade chiller or a dice acetone slush box (the trust question) and at what point do we lose the concept of the EL, maybe a question for the league itself.

Nice block mounting

Looking through some monitoring apps at MGeeks and found this. Worked on my office box but didn’t see the MB, being a HP might not have one. Open source and cross platform might have some potential. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/open_hardware_monitor.html

I agree with Websmile when it comes to competitions involving money/prizes. General comps like the Warm Up round are in house a few points, bragging rights and supposed to be fun and personally don’t care if a cold climate dweller is willing to brave -20c, cause I’d being doing it if I could and if you can best -20c score, you can brag a little louder. Hardware and its location on a scale between gold - brown & fly infested probably has as much if not more impact than a cold climate, course cold and gold would be nice. Mid fall/spring to cover both hemispheres, all outs for north/ south or latitude based for the equator crippled benchers that are probably ducting the AC to their setups. Nice to see a thermometer showing ambient of the cooling hardware location in rig image. I’d suggest showing BIOS cpu temp (Idle) but have a chip right now that loads 3c below ambient on stock volts (water) so could be a little misleading, MB temp might work better. Very good point from Sam OCX

Had a problem, sliders not holding there settings, fist time I used it on AGP Parhelia, had been going through some red/green cards before switching to the Matrox, after a clean OS install worked perfectly, if it helps. Nice competition, had fun, looking forward to the next one Cheers

Luebke “whats the best non nvidia/amd-vga?” took as a stand along statement, my post just an opinion as to what I thought was the best non red/green vga. Wish I could of found one here in the states, tried.

For your last statement I’d probably go with a S3 Chrome 540 GTX or S3 Graphics 5400E x2 if the latter made it the wild. The 20, 400 & 500 series cards are non-existent on Ebay figured there would be a few floating around somewhere must of had a little HTPC market share.

Nice, was wondering when a newer S3 Chrome would show up.

Thanks http://hwbot.org/submission/2506391_ Changed cooling as soon as I realize

Could I put back in the enthusiasts league please, accidently selected the wrong cooling type when submitting sub and got placed in the extreme league.

Got a problem with a Quadro NVS 280 AGP and lastest wrapper (older version does the same thing), launching from the wrapper auto setting fails to start AM3. Using the manual setting can run AM3 but when exiting back to windows wrapper is gone, sent the log files.

I used to like 03!!!

There are two versions of the Quadro NVS 280 AGP 8x, NV18 / 64 bit bus width / DX 7.0 and NV34 / 128 bit bus width / DX 9.0 thought I had the NV34. The existing sub is the same as the card I have so will use it, might need some clarification down the road.

Interesting, not what I expected from that hardware combination.

Thanks

Please add 3DLabs GPU

Thank You

ATI FireGL T2 128, From Wiki, GPUz is dropping the 128

Confused for a bit; Wiki showing the Voodoo line as DX8 cards thus the statement, Vintage3d, DX7 as well as a few other sites. Actually played a few games on the cards should have remembered. Not seeing Matrox and 3Dlabs in the directory listing when browsing video cards, personally done a couple of Matrox cards.

Will 3d Analyze work with some of the other brand DX8 cards or is it Voodoo only? Would have been nice if the bench would have been 01 / AM3, have on hand cards from most of the vendors, only one that will do 03 by design.

Nice