yosarianilives
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Ht would become a huge handicap until you get above the non-ht thread counts. So currently 8 thread. Throw away 7700k, throw away 5300g,7350k is useless. It's time for 7640x, 9700k, and all that other shit nobody has spent as much time benching hard.
Not sure this is good or bad, but that's mainly how it would shake up rankings. Oh and g470 would become even more irrelevant lmao. At least 1, 3, 5 cores wouldn't really change in the slightest
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On 8/16/2021 at 3:21 PM, Leeghoofd said:
Thats why I'm in favor for Option 4:
We list the 12900K twice. This solution would be a mix of #2 and #3. We list the 12900K as:
- i9 12900K (8P + 8E) [this would be in the 16C ranking]
- i9 12900K (8P + 0E) [this would be in the 8C ranking, the user would have to manually disable the E-Cores in BIOS to participate]Only advantage I see in that option is that you will get twice points for the same processor...
We have no control over marketing or creative PR people you know that Al. Perfect example the WR on the Crucial kits, HWBOT apparently certified the BabyJ score in their markting slides, while we in fact pulled it and it never came back ?
Getting people to follow rules is hard enough, now add them to have to disable cores for a ranking? Not possible, will just make a big mess
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Let's remember that the little cores are supposed to be roughly as fast as Skylake so not exactly completely weak cores. It should be total number of cores, if Intel OR amd choose to make half their cores suck then it just will do worse in its core rankings. No need to make hwbot any more complicated, count all the cores and that's the ranking the cpu goes in.
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Having fun gaming and benching at lanwar 2021
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This pre fullpot tweaks?
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5 hours ago, SaskOCGuy said:
So a question... Are an ES CPU or Motherboard allowed?
If not, I'm totally done in for. LoL
Must be all retail components, no es boards, mem, cpu, bios
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52 minutes ago, flanker said:
So, maybe Zen4. But I think, there will be maybe only sixcore to sixteencore
We may see quad apu again, although Allen says that in lab is getting fullpot cezanne on aqua so maybe we don't need to wait long. Just need bios update or to learn the magic volts
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Not great but atleast better, think I got everything for rules
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19 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:
it is always a different CPU required for 2D, same for GPUs in 3D... try it and submit with the same CPU, only the best score will count... you have been here before right? ?
Yes, but say ycruncher stage. It's in the memory comps but it's considered a cpu bench in dB. So I bench with a friend and we run different cpus but same memory kit is that allowed? Same for am2+ 32m? Since they still require spd tab in sub
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10 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:
And how must one figure out which kit exactly was used, the Taiwan or US version, a mix? Really this reasoning is mind blowing...
For Project 2022 we have to introduce a barcode scanner so people must scan their gear before competing...
If you had filled in the memory model used you would have discovered only one sub would count.
What about for the other stages where cpu is the main active component in dB?
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"c2" this so bad it's like c1
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2 minutes ago, StingerYar said:
These are not identical. One is US, other is Taiwan, serials are different (see photo). Mobo, CPU were same, correct, but it's not a problem for a MEM stage team competition, right?
To clarify: same series kit is not ok to participate at all? So you can't use two different kits of same series, like Dominator GT DDR3? Or logic is "same SPD = same kit", like you can use kit of 1866 + 2000 with no problem, but not 2000 + 2000?
Anyway better to add this clarification to rules.
Pyprime is a memory bench on hwbot so I think can share cpu, but for example ddr4 ycruncher stage is a cpu bench on hwbot so you could use all one mem kit even if it's in the "memory benches" comp
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Rules are always can't share the component for the bench category, thank God we don't have ssd bench in this comp... I'm assuming it's not just physically different sticks but also needs to be different model? So like Gt and Gtx is fine but not two Dom Gt?
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Will run 9900k when I get ln2
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2 hours ago, NoMS said:
Nice, well done!
I tried to run this benchmark here but it keep crashing with error even after lowering CPU/RAM frequency. I'm doing something wrong or just missing something?
What volts? And any maxmem? What error?
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Saw the new restriction of 2p max, it solves everything. We get to see cool 2p oc but don't have to worry about data center server.
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7 minutes ago, Mr.Scott said:
He made a mistake. You know better than that.
Let's hope, old edge case hw is way harder to get than new
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W8 multisocket 940 is allowed wat, Opteron allowdd then?
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7 hours ago, frag_ said:
What does it mean "2 submissions required" for these stages? Different cpu in the same mobo is OK?
Just needs to be a different model of whatever the main component is, cpu for 2d, gpu for 3d. And each sub needs to be from a different team mate. All other components can be shared. For example you can share gpu and storage for PCMark as long as cpus are different
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Both Iris XE 80 and 96 eu are currently listed as pcie 4.0 even though they're on the same die as their cpu and connected with ringbus not pcie. They should be moved to integrated because that's what they are, not sure if gpuz is misreading or not. If it's to keep them out of comps I would recommend just banning all mobile cpus as you have things like 6770hq that are faster than ln2 10900k and it would prevent having to find rare hardware for comps/buying every nuc intel ever releases.
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32 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:
Can E5 1650/ 1650v2 be used same as 4930k and 3930k? but not 1680 V2? for DDR3 stage obviously
I think at this point we can even allow 8 cores.
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Not sure why gpu-z is wrong, that cpu is supposed to have 80eu. But also score is extraordinarily low.
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Noticed we have 3dmark wildlife but not wildlife extreme, do we want to add it? I know we generally have all 3dmarks it seems
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Is this supposed to be 3 subs to make you use all 3 families or just pick two? https://hwbot.org/competition/HWBOT TEAM CUP 2021 - NVIDIA GPU/stage/5299_3dmark_-_night_raid_(gpu_family)_-_ddr3
A new way to address CPUs (Cores/Threads) on HWBot
in HWBOT 2021 Edition
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It's relevant for fx because we're making categories for cpus with different core strengths in different core configs. if fx shares part of its instruction pipeline between two cores, not just cache, then creating a one core per module category is no different from creating a 12900k category for disabling all the "shit cores" (they're Skylake speed, stop acting like they're super slow guys).
I still think that just adding up all the cores is the best, if Intel says it's 16 core then it's 16 core. This approach was used when people wanted fx to be 4 core with ht historically, the decision was if amd says its 8 cores then it's 8 cores. Of course historical decisions don't have to be future decisions as undeniably some historical decisions are probably not the way to move forward.