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    Aquamark wrapper won't run on old GPUs

    in HWBOT Aquamark³ Wrapper

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    26 minutes ago, GENiEBEN said:

    anything else that comes to mind?

    No, not to me.

     

    26 minutes ago, GENiEBEN said:

    this does remove a layer of security

    Well, the point is to make it's behaviour like the original Aquamark. So settings don't get downscaled on modern hardware, only on old ones. Like the original Aquamark was.

    Aquamark wrapper won't run on old GPUs

    in HWBOT Aquamark³ Wrapper

    Posted

    1 hour ago, GENiEBEN said:

    should I add a 'legacy' option for such hardware, clearly marked in UI?

    IMHO it would be best to behave like original Aquamark - set default settings on auto but when hardware can't make it, lower down to it's capabilities. So you can't lower settings below default for capable hardware (like things are now) but so you can run it on older hardware with lowered settings by Aqua itself.

    I'll provide any help I can to fix this, just PM me.

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    Aquamark wrapper won't run on old GPUs

    in HWBOT Aquamark³ Wrapper

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    17 minutes ago, ludek said:

    Is there any clue what happens to the wrapper? Is this to do with low memory count? Or some software timmings?

    I believe that at some point (after another update) the wrapper enforced using Aquamark's default settings which are AF at least and maybe some more. But when a hardware can't support these, Aqua would run with downgraded (automatically) settings. And the wrapper detects this downgrade and just throws it out.
    So I can run Aqua without wrapper but it'll exit immediately using it.

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    P4C800-E modBIOS

    in Old School

    Posted

    On 3/29/2021 at 3:30 PM, ludek said:

    Have you discovered anything special in the BIOS?

    Well, a lot of subtimings and some interesting things like another memory divider setting that allows to set dividers from another strap, not only your current allowing modes like DDR500 and DDR533 at 200FSB.
    Most of these had an override like cross-flash for dividers or Memset for subtimings but they were already hidden in BIOS so I've made them available via BIOS. Plus many nifty things for benchmarking like disabling LAN/sound/ports and keyboard input for FSB frequency.
    You can open the BIOS with AMIBCP and look through text strings, the settings are all listed there.

    P4C800-E modBIOS

    in Old School

    Posted

    Thought I'd let it go wild. A benchBIOS made by Hardware Hackers (me in particular). Been known by some for about 10 years.
    The thing is, I didn't add any features, it was all there done by Asus, I've just unlocked them and made some bench-related changes.

    List of changes:

    Based on latest 1024 beta

    Set by CMOS default:

    1) No logo screen
    2) Floppy disabled
    3) IDE timeout = 0
    4) Overclocking mode = manual
    5) MPS 1.4
    6) Timings set manually
    7) Spread spectrum disabled
    ? Onboard devices = disabled
    9) Speech POST reporter = disabled
    10) USB timeout = 10sec
    11) USB Highspeed = enable

    Moved following menus:

    1) Hyperthreading moved to jumperfree (it's the only option needed in CPU configuration so moving in jumperfree saves some time)
    2) Moved PCI Latency to chipset settings (it's the only option in PnP that is useful for changing for PCMark for example, so moved to a more popular section)
    3) Moved memory timings to jumperfree except burst length (from previous investigations this menu doesn't do anything and I don't like useless things).
    4) New memory divider menu has replaced the old one
    5) DRAM Command Rate placed in Jumperfree under main timings
    6) Created an "Advaned memory settings" submenu in Jumperfree and moved subtimings there (Burst length, Idle Timer, Refresh Rate and ECC capability too)
    7) Placed Microcode updation instead of "Max CPUID level 3" (who needed that one anyway?) in CPU configuration.
    ? Placed AGP 4x Override under "Graphic Adapter priority" in chipset settings.
    9) Removed AI tuner menu

    So Jumperfree currently has frequency, voltage and timings on one page and that makes it close to AI tweaker.

    Keyboard input for FSB frequency - it was such a waste of time to set the required value by pressing + or -.

    Unhidden menus:

    1)  All strap & memory dividers available despite the FSB frequency and labled clearly (by Asus, not me)
    2)  Command Rate
    3)  Dual Channel Organization
    4)  Write to Read Command Delay
    5)  Write Recovery Time
    6)  Write-Read Command Spacing
    7)  Read-Write Command Spacing
    ? Read Delay
    9)  Dynamic Read Delay Adjustment
    10) Microcode Updation
    11) AGP 4x Override

    P4C800-E mod.zip

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    HWBOT 3DMARK LEGACIES RULES DISCUSSION THREAD

    in Benchmark Rules

    Posted

    8 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    so Vantage can allow usage of LOD, older Systeminfo's

    Then there's a controversial point in the benchmark's rules:

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    Latest version & Systeminfo 5.32+ (enabled)


    https://hwbot.org/rules?referenceId=5196
     

    9 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    You still use ya Nokia 3210?

    I would prefer one in some experiences of my life. This particular ES won't work in Win7, my retail ones are slower. Thanks for the answer! I'll try to catch up.

    HWBOT 3DMARK LEGACIES RULES DISCUSSION THREAD

    in Benchmark Rules

    Posted · Edited by Antinomy

    On 2/5/2021 at 5:15 AM, Leeghoofd said:

    Only for Vantage and 11 we require a link and an updated Systeminfo, is that a problem?

    My way so far: Vista SP1, Core2 setup.
    1) Need a verification link. Haven't accessed FM account for 10 years, had to reset password to just open it.
    2) O.K., need to unregister Vantage from my usual illegal CD-key to put the free one (or my legal one) - no way to do this, had to uninstall the bench and in the end it asks to delete registration
    3) O.K., reinstall Vantage, free key, run, screen, valid file. Submit on UL site - you benchmark is of wrong version, F....
    4) download, reinstall again, run, screen, file, valid - there's an update for Systeminfo.
    5) Download Systeminfo 5.37.xx, click - "can't be installed because the installer required newer windows installer version"
    6) Found windows installer update 4.5 (being wiped out by M$ everywhere so took time). For those looking, windows6.0-kb942288-v2-x86.msu Install (had to enable Win update service), reboot - same error with "windows installer version".

    So after more than one and a half hours I'd like to know - which windows installer version does this dang thing need? And where do I get one for Vista x86 SP1?

    Looks like I really need a manual how to live these new rules...

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