Antinomy

And move the following results: http://url.hwbot.org/12Ln2gX Since it's similar to 2367M, CPU-Z is confused but the CPU name clearly shows it's a 2365M. Thank you, I'll be back with more soon

Christian Ney where's SL5QL mentioned? Did see this.

Christian Ney, it is a ES and it is a Pentum 3 1266. gigioracing, have you seen a list of ES that have unlocked multi? Or are all Tualatin ES unlocked? Which sSpecs are yours?

Congrats! Good to know Samendk's collection is in such good hands. Then you have a lot indeed. Lol, that's the right number of pcs to bin from.

Excellent score!

Many? LOL I don't see any "many"

I see some homework well done

Old school is best school. Well done, Mr. Scott!

And with some more tweaks gets even more

Just today I was benching some obscure hardware where first places were taken by one HWBot members. After some warming up I've got three ties in a row! In Super pi 1M, wPrime 32M and smth else (maybe it was two ties ). And what do you think? Some old-fashioned tweaks came to my mind, I tried them and got a nice improvement over the first place. But I could just stop thinking a tie is good enough. When it's not - only degree of laziness. Not giving same amount of points for a tie is very motivating.

Timings are more and more fun )))

Looks like you're out of cache - check with RMMA the amount of actual cache. Might be water conducting the bridges. And why those funny timings?

Nice but you need more skill to beat me

I think I'll stop arguing just at this point. I agree with some of your statements, I disagree with a bigger part but we cleared the current situation and consequences of possible changes from both sides - the positive and negative ones. That's enough for me as I'm not the one making decisions, I just wanted to show the whole picture. I honor you opinion, cheers.

Nice point, but I think you don't get mine. Right now it's worth an unbalanced high amount of points. Your conclusion is false - the way it is now is like splitting VGA cards by models and vendors - usual MSI, MSI Lightning, Asus usual, Asus DC, EVGA, EVGA Superclocked and so on. And this is only for a 7970/680. Same goes for the other GPUs. That's the way MoBo are right now. Just imagine such a situation and your next statement is so naive. Do you realize how many different videocard models from different vendors using same GPU are there? The same applies to systemboards, there won't be much less free/stock points. Some time ago HWBot staff decided to tighten VGA to not differ cards by memory size (only by mem type) meaning all 256/512/1024MB cards with same memory and GPU fall in one category. I think same should be applied here with the same reasons. Or at least slightly less rewarded. And I run obscure hardware so I do know that this: is not quite so since rev. 4. When rev. 3 came out, it hit old school hardware heavily (making benching it useless). And it got fixed in rev. 4 and 5. It's in nice balance with the rest. But motherboards to my opinion are not.

A CPU gives you 41,6-52 depending on SSE/2 support. A board gives you 5.2. That's 8-10 times. But if you take 100 boards and 100 CPUs what is the possibility that you get points at stock with the boards and CPUs? I think about 90% of boards won't be present on Bot and 95% of CPUs will be. Just for example - I don't like the idea that a guy who robs a scrap store and runs 10-20 junk boards outperforms a guy who has found a rare CPU and benched it. OTOH cases with tight competition among boards should be rewarded. The board models I understand your point on E8600 but this is a different case. Feel free to raise it

Lol

Devroush, thank you for clearing. Are you sure, that's how, say world records in sports are counted? Last time I checked it was "first come, first served". A tie didn't mean another man having a world record. You had to break the record to get the prize. Rasparthe, nice point. Suggest an algorithm that treats both cases.

GENiEBEN, I don't want to take all the points. I just see an unbalanced side - take 20PC and it's more likely that the most awarding submissions will be the MoBo ones. Without overclocking. What I want is more points for better overclocking. If your first at stock, it ain't fun. If your #2 among 30 results - you are good, really good. If this result is #3 among all boards with this chipset (and it's a popular one) - you're a hero. But not if you post a stock ECS G31 board result. Recent memory board is a demonstration of my view. Sorry if my opinion hurts your feelings and take it easy

Along with calculation algorithm that makes global points for obscure HW less rewarding will there be a change to MoBo rewards? I mean - a 5.2 HTPP for any obscure MoBo model while there are hundreds of them - that's HW grinding in a more ugly way than rare CPUs/GPUs (these are at least fun). Maybe stack such results on a per-chipset basis like Memory results? This will force members to bench and push the boards to the limit along with more boints for really good results.

Is it really this way? I remember being able to get the gold cup by having a tie with the #1 while my score was newer than the existing. If all that 10 years of development in methods, hints, cooling and software has given you is a tie - you really suck compared to the guy who was able to clock it back in those days. Waza, maxmem weren't familiar to most people back there. I totally agree with Mr.Scott. Many people should be glad Holicho didn't apply HWBot

Very impressive!

It's more the CPU - the fourth CPU on the photo made only around 4000-4050 and no higher. While the other three did over 4500 easily.

~1.65V IIRC Very fast pretest, about 10 minutes to get the score. So I think it can be pushed a bit higher. Survived a 4950 Pifast run.

I'd say even even 3600-3700 is sucky under water. But! Keep it pushing, macsbeach! Try 1:1 with 2-2-2-5.