Ace123

I appriciate you at least giving a listen.

Ive been doing this a long time. Ive invested a portion of my life to hwbot and overclocking in general since I began posting my first overclocks on a funky little site named pimprig. If I notice something crappy about a community I belong to and dont bring it up, how will I ever effect positive change? Am I just as bad as the next guy? I have no problem with Intel, ive been an enthusiast overclocking their processors for a LONG time. I had a 386... they have in the past reacted.... poorly in an attempt to protect what they see as theirs, Market share. Part of our jobs as consumers is to check that behavior. If we reward a company with business and positive outlook for doing well qnd delivering great products, why shouldnt we do the opposite for negativity or shady behavior from their marketing department. Is Strategically lifting an embargo and letting select overclockers release overclocking results on processors that wont be released for months in order to squash your direct competitors launch illegal? No, but it sure is hell shady, and if we all just shrug our shoulders and say "meh, i dont care" then how far will we let them go? At what point does someone say "whoa dude thats bulls**t", i want to protect the competetive market that forces these companies to push innovation and deliver us bwtter products faster, not just bully the competition into stagnation and then milk the current architechtire for 9 generations with garbage incremental increases. Thats why I bring it up even though its worse than yelling into a vacuum.

Being sponsored by, and being purchased are two different things. When can accept sponsorship while maintaining integrity.

Im not affraid to be called a fanboy. Thats what we label anyone these days who have a position that isnt favorable to our favorite side. We're all fanboys. Let er rip.

Before you make idiotic claims like this, at least do your homework and check my profile and youll see a LONG history of intel cpus. Endorsing behavior like this from intel is EXACTLY how we ended up in the last stagnant intel controlled market for the last 10 years when intel used their dollar and market position to hang AMD, and all of us, out to dry. This place is currently a mechanism for that bullying. So what do we all do? Just say "oh well i like it so its ok with me, hard truths, gtfo if you dont like it" or do we recognize the fact that we are sort of shephards of the community and put rules in place that create a fair environment? One is the right answer. The other makes you part of the problem

Intel holds the embargo. When intel releases these processors for testing they do so under NDA. Breaking an NDA will be met with consequences. Intel decides when that NDA is lifted and thats when we see results.

I love how all someone has to do is be a dick and somehow thats immediately "facts" or "hard truths". It is not. Im not going to be affraid to bring up issues because a few guys who benefit from the status quo are happy with the lopsided way things are. Intel is purchasing the leaderboard by allowing specific overclockers to benchmark hardware they have no intention of releasing soon in order to bury their competitors launches and create an image. We used to call those ES samples but intel is side stepping that as well. There needs to be rules to keep bullies like intel (who has a long history of shady behavior) from manipulating the leaderboards like this. It is a problem and i will continue to bring it up. Be a dick all you want but THOSE are the facts.

Actually what ill do is address the problems as I see them exactly as I did and youll deal with it. Ive been overclocking for WAY longer than most people here, and it has NEVER been this bad. In almost every other form of organized competition on the planet, there are rules set in place to keep companies from "purchasing" the leader boards. Its painfully obvious that hwbot needs to evolve like the rest of the world to include a rule set like this.

Its getting absolutly ridiculous just how many submissions are being made with Intel processors that are NOWHERE near release date. Looking at the top submissions list every day for "normal" people us daunting and quite honestly makes me want to quit. Intel is greedily "buying" that list in an underhanded BS move and guys are signing on and letting them because THEY get free processors and records. Hwbot has to stop allowing this behavior. Intel coordinated with several overclockers to release their ln2 submissions for all these unreleased processors SPECIFICALLY on Threadrippers launch day for the single purpose of burying any publicity that AMD would have received on the actual launch of their product. Now we have to sit through months of watching specific overclockers work with hardware we cant obtain take records they dont deserve with hardware that isnt out. In my opinion this is a slap in the face to overclocking.

Title says it all.

Time edit cheat? Explain

Do 3dmark submissions all have to have links now? I thought that was for WR stuff

What cooling are you running on that chew?

Looks alot like mine

you are absolutely my very best friend today.

1700 4.05ghz, 3600 ram at 14-13-13-13-28 1t here. Super easy

Im currently running an rx480 with the air bios with a modified gelid icy vision cooler. I'm currently able to maintain a maximum frequency of 1415-1425 without power throttling. The temps stay at 62c on core and 85c on vrms. Any higher than 1.3v and the card throttles I assume because of power limits. Is there a way to get an air bios with a slightly higher limit? Thanks for your hard work guys.

My two submissions are still showing 12 cores and I am receiving points accordingly. http://hwbot.org/submission/3094986_ http://hwbot.org/submission/3094984_

Ok I found it, but hwbot thinks my CPU is a 12 core and not an 18 core.

Hello. I'm trying to submit results with my Xeon E5 2696v3 and there currently isn't one listed. Can this cpu be added?

well thank you sir.

Tis on its way lol

Proud of you bro.

I understand that now, but how do I get rid of the reported submission lol

Hmm. its glareing at me right on the front screen. It could possibly have arrisen from me trying to post an XTU benchmark with an 8 core XEON ES processor I was given. When I tried to post the score it gave me a blurb about trying to benchmark with an unreleased processor blah blah. I cannot see what it is or fix it. Its just there all the time now.