No1Spank

Ryzen & the ROG Hero have given me the most miserable installation and woeful overclocking experience ever. I can't be bothered to do anymore or test any games. RMA tomorrow after a YouTube review and back to Intel, next mobo will be any board that isn't Asus.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'll run windows 7 at least for benching.

I have posted this question a couple of times elsewhere on the forum as I get my 1700X tomorrow and don't want to have to re bench any benchmarks if I need to do them on Windows 7. Is the Ryzen in the same class as Skylake & Kaby Lake in terms on benchmark results being valid on Windows 10? Thanks

Is Ryzen like Skylake and Kaby Lake in that benchmark scores on all benches that will run are able to be counted for league points on Windows 10? Or do certain benches such as Cinebench 11.5 & 15 need to be run on Windows 7? Just asking as my Ryzen should be here tomorrow and I want to start seeing what it can do without having to re bench again if I do it wrong. Thanks

Good to see your not afraid to apply the volts, 1.55 is normally the sweet spot for OC on AMD processors. Got a 1700X coming soon on a X370 Hero, NH-D15 triple fan, open air. I'll be looking to match this benchmark speed on air.

I'm hoping this is just benched on XFR, I've got a pre ordered 1700X on the way and hoping for some decent clocks.

Are we able to submit Ryzen scores with Windows 10? I'm waiting for mine to arrive.

Why can't I enter Crosshair V Formula-Z as my board?

Whipped the lid off for you, I've only cut the silicone glue off the lid. I can't see that cutting the glue off the die will gain anything, the IHS will still be a bit closer to the cpu and it's the thermal paste that matters.

Sorry it's my first post trying to advertise anything for sale, I generally don't sell anything so I'm not that good with ebay either. I thought I was doing well to get a good 4.2ghz on one of these to run any bench in 20 degree C ambient conditions. It wouldn't do that before the delid (they are not soldered), even 4ghz was sketchy. My other one isn't much quicker but has scored me some decent points in the league. Got another one on the way to play with. Deliding older cpu's is definitely worthwhile. I had an E2160 that wouldn't budge over 2.9ghz on air, with a TEC I could bench at 3.2ghz and then after the delid I managed over 3.8ghz on air again and with lower volts. Downside is the glue gets really hard on older processors making it a lot easier to damage the die especially on the socket 775's which is why I've given up on those. AMD processors are fairly easy to do as long as you don't go in very far as there are little resisters around the edges of the die. All Semprons and Athlons have TIM as far as I know but Phenoms and FX's are all soldered. I also did my Haswell i5 4670K, the temps are now a lot lower under load but I didn't manage to squeeze many more mhz.

I have a single core Sempron for sale that is lapped and had a delid with Gelid GC-Extreme thermal past on the CPU to IHS. I haven't glued it back down as I know some of you prefer liquid metal. Would make a good CPU for a rookie or novice to improve their global single core scores. It's for sale on Ebay for 20 quid with free delivery to anyone in the UK. AMD Sempron 145 Lapped, Delid, & binned 4.2ghz My best scores are with another Sempron 145 which isn't for sale yet.

Hi Gavbon, I'm a novice when it comes to hardcore overclocking, I'm just playing around with TECS a bit at the minute. Would I be able to bring some stuff up to have a go at benching dry ice if you do another meet? I'm scared to try it on my own without someone who knows what they are doing showing me first. Also does anyone know where I can get a pot? All the sites that sell them always say they are out of stock plus they are abroad. Thanks

Just spotted this post, next time I post any 3d mark scores I will try to remember to have all the correct tabs open. I need to do all my cards again when I get a new Zen processor and the R9 390 is bottlenecked anyway by something as increasing core or memory any higher doesn't yield any better results on any bench. Thanks

Would certainly stop some people arguing about cheating with cooling. Probably wouldn't be as good for attracting new blood though. I think a true overclocker will bench regardless and the cream will rise to the top whatever way it goes. I suppose more people making up the numbers should help the industry and maybe fuel more events in the future if it becomes a bit more mainstream.

I see nothing wrong with submitting with the stock speed filled in, a good spread of results makes the processor comparison charts more useful for a person looking to build a system and not necessarily run it overclocked as the charts are based on average performance. It's also useful when scanning results to see what a stock processor can do, some motherboards may have a slightly higher default base clock which might affect the results. It's all good as far as I can see, it's not like a normal person will use LN2 but nobody complains about that throwing the average OC.

What do you reckon about renaming the Apprentice league the Expert or Advanced league which is what most of the people in it are if they are using chillers, TECS, dry ice and phase cooling?

I've noticed that when Novices are promoted to the Enthusiast league after a year they keep the OC sports points they gained in Rookie Rumbles and Novice Nimbles until a year after the competition ends. This throws the league as a skilled rookie or novice can easily score big points in such competitions where they may not be good enough to be anywhere near the top in a standard competition such as a Division round. I'm suggesting that when a Rookie is promoted to the Novice league any points gained in a rookie rumble are removed and when a Novice is promoted to the Enthusiast league any points gained from a novice nimble are removed to keep the leagues more balanced. It would be interesting to know what everyone thinks.

I've noticed that when Novices are promoted to the Enthusiast league after a year they keep the OC sports points they gained in Rookie Rumbles and Novice Nimbles until a year after the competition ends. This throws the league as a skilled rookie or novice can easily score big points in such competitions where they may not be good enough to be anywhere near the top in a standard competition such as a Division round. I'm suggesting that when a Rookie is promoted to the Novice league any points gained in a rookie rumble are removed and when a Novice is promoted to the Enthusiast league any points gained from a novice nimble are removed to keep the leagues more balanced. It would be interesting to know what everyone thinks.

Athlon II x3 and a Athlon II x4 still performing as expected so rest of my setup is ok. Everything on the 710 looks ok, memory channels, caches and cores are all showing up as functioning. Temps are normal and it overclocks easily so I'm at a loss. Never seen a cpu perform so badly with no obvious fault before.

Something is wrong here, I may have a bad chip or my board is past it's best.

You need more system memory to run the 390 overclocked.

The submitter says it can't detect a compatible version of Y-cruncher on all my computers.

I think a good name for the Apprentice league would be the Hardcore league, I'd submit a TEC submission even though I'm mainly using air just because it would sound such a cool league to be in.

I see you can just type it in before submission which I will always do in future. Feel free to remove all of my older submissions although it would have been nice to keep them for reference.

OK, thanks for the info, I've submitted my FX6300 CPUZ for div IV competition with my screenshot in email part of validation. Do I need to rename my computer?