Massman

The date we use to determine "retail" is always the NDA date. Other dates, like retail availability or announcements, sometimes differ from region to region.

Do you have a link to a .zip with all files, Infra? I'll re-host the tools in the cloud then.

http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/tools/WBX%20Tune%202.31.zip //edit: also updated first post and title so it'll be easier to find it for other people

Yeah, there's a feedback loop from PWM to GPU to check the current (for protection). If you cut the PWM, the feedback loop is broken, and the GPU won't work.

Mail to me, I'll put it on the server

System pic is required, can you add?

Skylink to Indonesian bench session

Dino looks very different in real life

Thanks for the info! (der8auer, we had the same issue at Campus Berlin two years ago)

All my hotel arrangements are made; can't really change them now. Maybe we can meet up there some time, though. Will you be benching all the time? We had a similar "oc house" during Computex for some guys. I think this is an awesome evolution ... renting a big place like that for a couple of people. Should become a yearly thing

Damn, so awesome. Next year I should plan CES better!

Damn! I should cancel all my hotels!

Updated opening post, nice one Bullant!

Hey guys, Someone just mailed me to say there is a difference between the stage end time and the cup end time. The cup was originally supposed to end on the 27th noon GMT (24h from now), but the Cup was configured to the 28th (48h). I've re-aligned the stage and Cup to the 28th. So you might have an extra 24 hours to get the score. Sorry for the inconvenience - hope it didn't ruin anyone's sandbag plans.

Some new uploads: - MSI GeForce GTX 760 Hawk (Elpida) xtreme oc BIOS: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/760HawkElpida.140 - MSI GeForce GTX 760 Hawk (Hynix) xtreme oc BIOS: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/760HawkHynix.112 - MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning xtreme oc BIOS: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/780LightningMoa.200 - Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti (reference) xtreme oc BIOS: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/780tirefln2.rom - ASUS GeForce GTX 780 Ti Direct CU II xtreme oc BIOS: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/VGABIOS/780tidcu2ln2.rom - ASUS GeForce GTX 780 Ti Direct CU II Disable OCP/OVP: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/tools/Disable780TIDCU2ocp.zip'>http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/tools/Disable780TIDCU2ocp.zip - ASUS GeForce GTX 780 Ti Direct CU II Disable OCP/OVP: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/tools/Disable780TIDCU2ocp.zip - ASUS GTX780/780Ti DCU2 OV Rework SOP: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/PDF/ASUS%20GTX780-780TI%20DCU2%20OV%20Rework%20SOP.docx

Good attitude! :battle:

It's not the community or HWBOT, it happens in all kinds of competitive environments. We've had plenty of competitions where there was no problem whatsoever. Even this year ...

We're discussing this internally right now. Timezones are slowing the process down.

Updated hwbot mirror: http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/tools/QuickLOD_v101.exe

And a winner who didn't even post in the topic that he was participating. Same drama, different format.

Not really. There's nothing during the entire period of the competition, just one hour of excitement. That's pretty much like the very first overclocking competitions where you had to email the screenshot to someone, and then had the winner list published.

That would be +35 for indonesia and -5 for Australia, totaling to 40pts. Difference between them now is 52 points. It's not enough.

I think we're looking at the problem of sandbagging from the wrong angle. The underlying issue is the asymmetric nature of an overclocking competition. By this, I mean that the competitive aspect of overclocking is not "real time". Some people achieve their scores after the first week, some only in the last hours. But the grading happens at real time: every team is valued at a very specific time. Specifically, the end time of the competition. Now, the problem of a "sandbag score" is not related to the specific date or time the score has been achieved. A score obtained in the last weekend is not intrinsically more valuable than one obtained in the first week. That's why I don't like the idea of valuing a score because it has been at the top the longest. I think the emotional/perceptual aspect of sandbag can be solved by making the grading symmetric to the achieving. (or rather asymmetric like the achieving) An example: the due time for a stage is 8PM. For two weeks, people have been able to submit scores. At 8PM, the stage is closed. At 8AM, the ranking on the competition page disappears. So there are 12 hours where people are basically submitting "in the dark". You can submit all your backup scores, but no one sees them. Then from 8PM - 10PM, the scores are being submitted to the competition by the engine, at random. It doesn't matter at what point during the two weeks you achieved the winning score, the perception will be that all the scores were achieved during the last 12 hours. Everyone can just sit and watch how the competition unfolds, and no one will have the feeling of being "ripped off" at the very last second. (//edit: with smart backend logic you can even instruct the engine to hold off the best scores of the top-3 and submit those at the same time. I think that would create the same emotional experience like seeing the river card in poker) In addition to this, you can add a small incentive for the competition time until the last hours to get people to submit or have the competition going.

I think the best thing we can do is stop updating the scoreboard two hours before the end of the competition. The add a new feature with new scores are shown every 5 minutes, make it animated, add a chat, get popcorn, and enjoy the show :woot:

It's gonna be difficult for Germany and Indonesia, I think. Indonesia hasn't submit anything serious for stage 1 yet, but they are like 55 pts behind. Germany's #1 in stage 1, but 20 pts behind. They are 140 pts behind in stage 2, and overtaking Australia there would mean reducing that difference to 6 pts overall. If AU wins all three, it's done. If they lose in two, including one to Germany, it's all about the last stage.