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More World Championship information - looking forward to find out who qualifies for South Africa, Europe and North America!
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Can my "do not participate in rankings" be undone?
Massman replied to a topic in Submission & member moderation
Sure - no problem. Do you want to enable points for all your submissions? -
Okay - looking forward to the first LN2 test from @flanker in that case! Is the performance still scaling with memory frequency? Do you have a low latency kit lying around somewhere to test ~ 1200C8 or 1100C7 maybe?
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Earlier this month I had the opportunity to get familiar with the ROG GX700 notebook. There are a couple of things that got me interested in this massive device. First of all, of course the water cooling. It's a huge device you can hook the notebook up to. Secondly, the hardware. It features not only the first mobile -K processor, the Core i7 6820HK, but also a desktop grade GeForce GTX 980 GPU and 64GB of DDR4 memory. A beast of a notebook, in other words. Soon we will have a SkatterBencher video up showing you how to overclock. In this thread I just want to share a couple of results and findings for those who are interested. OVERCLOCKING - CPU and GPU The overclocking part is quite straight-forward. You can use the ROG Gaming Center to switch between Standard, Turbo, Extreme and Manual mode for CPU overclocking. Extreme and manual are only available when you have the notebook hooked up to the water cooling. The CPU runs by default at 2.7GHz and turbos up to 36x ratio (or 3.6 GHz). The turbo rate is unlocked up to 41x as configured by the notebook's BIOS. I've seen other notebooks support 46x ratio, so it seems to be a design choice. Inside the software application you can increase the BCLK from 100 MHz to 105 and 110 MHz if you wish to do so. Bear in mind that only at 100MHz BCLK you can enable XMP. At 105 or 110 MHz, the XMP option will be grayed out. (XTU has more options, see section below) As for GPU overclocking, there is a bit more headroom. For both the GPU and the memory you can go up +300 in the Gaming Center application, which is also the limit in Nvidia Inspector. By default the GPU is running at 1189/2505 under load. When you hook up the water cooling, the turbo frequency automatically increases to 1227/3500 MHz. Through manual overclocking I was able to increase it even further to 1427/3800, maxing out the memory but still with some headroom on the GPU. 1.4GHz turbo boost with a notebook is pretty darn impressive in my books. OVERCLOCKING RESULTS So, here are my results: [TABLE=head]Setup | XTU | Fire Strike Extreme | RealBench Stock (3.6G/1189/2505)| 1078 | 4790 | 84094 Water Cooled (4G/1227/3500) | 1148 | 5683 | 84231 Overclocked (4.1G/1427/3800) | 1271 | 6665 | 103741[/TABLE] // insert screenshots when I find them // PUSHING THE NOTEBOOK As I have done with all the hardware that passed through my hands, I had to find a way around the limitations in the ASUS software and see how much performance I could squeeze out of this bad boy. I found the XTU gave me plenty of ways to go beyond the limitations, but I also found it particularly stressful. Before you continue, I want to emphasize that using XTU to overclocking this notebook is ONLY for advanced users. There are no easy clear CMOS tools for the notebook, so in case your system is unstable you might have to go extra lengths to get it back up and running. I've made some suggestions to the notebook division on how to improve. The key points that XTU will allow you to do is: Increase the BCLK beyond 110 MHz (+ add granularity between 100, 105 and 110) Enable XMP when overclocking the BCLK [hwbot=3137739]submission[/hwbot] To measure performance I used XTU because that's where most of the 6820HK action is. For my final score I achieved 1444 points at 4160 MHz which is currently the top result in the hardware category. Yeey, golden cup! The trick is to enable XMP and increase the BCLK beyond 110 MHz to have extra memory frequency. I see some folks with better CPU frequency, so there's no doubt this score will soon drop in the rankings. But as I said ... disaster almost struck after this session. I tried increasing the memory frequency further and it was unstable. After reboot, the settings stuck in the BIOS. Because the BIOS didn't reset (even with the long-press on the power button) I was forced to open up the notebook and remove two of the memory sticks to force a BIOS error. RECOVERING FROM FAILED OC (I will add the video once it's available) If you are using any other software tool than the ROG Gaming Center to overclock the GX700 notebook, chances are you will be looking at this section, pulling your hair, to find out how to un-brick your notebook. There are two ways of forcing the BIOS to reset. 1) force a BIOS error by for example removing memory and 2) clearing the BIOS by removing the battery. Both approaches will require you to open up the notebook. Here's how you do it. Remove Screws Part 1 Remove Screws Part 2 Remove Memory or Unplug Battery
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Do you have pll override enabled ?
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Wow, nice!! I'm thinking that the Excavator might need Hypers to get to great performance. Having played with Vishera a lot this month, it's quite clear that you need >DDR3-2600 with Samsung to get anywhere close to the performance Hypers have with 2000C7 or so. Considering the low NB frequency, I'd say tight timings is more beneficial than high memory frequency. Are you still on air cooling, Gorod?
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ROG REALBENCH - FIRST BETA CHALLENGE DISCUSSION
Massman replied to SL06BHytMar's topic in HWBOT Competitions
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The low NB frequency intrigues me. Does anyone have an explanation why it's so low? The Stilt?
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I wouldn't be too concerned about that, Alva. Remember that back in the Phenom II days the official specification for the memory frequency was DDR2-1066 and DDR3-1333. DDR3-1600 was already widely available (and not even officially supported by Intel at the time).
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Official Discussion Thread for G.SKILL OC World Cup 2016
Massman replied to Massman's topic in HWBOT Competitions
Update! Core i3 Allowed in G.SKILL OC World Cup 2016 Qualifier http://hwbot.org/newsflash/3452_update_core_i3_allowed_in_g.skill_oc_world_cup_2016_qualifier -
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// not confirmed // We may have found a good venue in Singapore in early Q4. Would that be something that suits the Australian overclockers who want to participate? The reason I'm asking is because the flight costs with Flyscoot seem quite alright from Australia: Adelaide: ~ AUD $750 return Brisbane: ~ AUD $800 return Melbourne: ~ AUD $430 return Perth: ~ AUD $370 return Sydney: ~ AUD $480 return I know it's not exactly the same like going to Australia, but apart from Adelaide and Brisbane I guess the travel is bearable? Any feedback would be much appreciated
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880K is a Godavari (Kaveri Refresh). Funny fact: this was already announced in September 2015 http://www.techpowerup.com/215881/amd-readies-a10-7890k-a8-7690k-and-athlon-x4-880k-socket-fm2-chips.html. Talk about being late to market (actually haven't seen them yet).
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Good information, @Lucky_n00b, and congrats on the fastest "5G" AMD 32M It's quite clear that the Excavator is a design for mobile and not for desktop. The overclocking capabilities make me think of the Kabini chips which also have good performance clock-per-clock (even with single channel!) but lack the frequency to be really useful.
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Available through Amazon now as well: http://www.amazon.com/Advance-micro-device-Near-Silent-AD845XACKASBX/dp/B01BF376EI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457409738&sr=8-1&keywords=athlon+x4+845 Too bad I'm flying out on the 15th. I guess I'll get one when I'm back.
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That's the funniest application of thermal paste I've seen. Remember all those article and forum threads where people discuss if you need a blop, a cross or a square? Nope, you need a pile of paste.
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Dancop - Core i7 5960X @ 6000MHz - 2410 cb Cinebench - R15
Massman replied to Doug2507's topic in Result Discussions
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HWBOT Announces Contest Rules for World Series at rAge South Africa
Massman replied to Massman's topic in HWBOT World Tour
For qualification - no. For the final - yes. Board is the Z170 XPower Gaming TE