Massman

Woot! The pop-up is back!

The switch was correct (data of score shouldn't be used for analysis), but there's a problem with what you get to see when opening that link. Something that needs to be fixed at our side.

Doh! I somehow got the idea that these chips did't exist. Can you link me up with cpu-z links for the data, I'll restore them asap.

Ah, I think I know. The moderatool tools consist of a set of tools to indicate how the engine can use the score. For instance: - Can be used for ranking, data, ... - Can only be used for data, not ranking, not points - Can not be used for data, not for ranking, not for points The last option is coded as "delete", because the score can't be used for statistical data. The score isn't deleted from the database (moderators can still see the score), but it's no longer visible for any member. I'll ask if it's possible to allow the owner of the result to see the score.

"An hwbot crew member, NeoForce, has blocked one of your submitted scores. It has been marked as 'impossible score at given settings, possible bug or other'." Doesn't say delete?

Fixed.

No, we've had the PNG bug before and the "open screenshot wants to download"-bug is reported to RB.

Just FYI: all scores have been blocked and hardware categories have been removed.

The reason of blocking was not the subtest scores, but the score which is too high for the given frequencies apparently.

View more gives the right results, but incorrect points (looks to be 0,1-0,2p off)

Gulftown might be an issue. Can you retest the exact same configuration (mobo/mem/os) with a Bloomfield?

The hwbot engine 'knows' what hardware can be unlocked and which can't. If the hardware is not in the list, it will always be placed in the same category. In other words, the engine doesn't allow you to use an i7 in any category but the 4xCPU one.

Now you have motivation to push for 3rd?

We considered it, but didn't do it because the Overclockers League should mainly be about the global points. It should represent skill over money, extreme oc over air oc and so on. Afaik, the balance between hardware cap and top20 was more tight in rev2.

Check on the left of the page We don't have ads ... certainly no clickables. Frontpage usability will improve over the next few weeks. It takes some time to get our head around the new lay-out as well ...

Who deleted what score exactly?

Hm, okay ... then we need to figure out why the others are scoring so low :-/

Added to backlog, RB will answer this after he checks if it's possible.

Latency result looks weird: 3x lower than what other users are reporting. Is this a bug in the program or did you use a tweak or OS difference?

Ow, nice run!

Pretty awesome run!

Thanks for reporting! Either some results used to be delete or there's another issue. You can see that certain results don't get points, click on them and check the nickname in the result_id ... there's nothing indicated.

In the next couple of days, I'll extend the competition and add clarkdale/westmere stages ... we're going untill the world record is broken!

Want to add it, but admin page gives me errors when trying to see the competition.

The bottom line of this story is, quite frankly, that a lot of people fail to see what this new revision is about and get stuck when trying to compare the points they got in Rev2 and the points they got in Rev3. There's no way to compare points because: - Algorithms have changed - There's no such thing as a definition of the 'HWBoint'; stating you deserve X amount has no meaning if there's no way to assign value to X/X (=1). Furthermore, it seems to me that complaints are coming from all directions and is even contradicting itself. Some think this is all about mediocrity, some think it's all about money, some think you always need LN2 ... bottom line: everyone wants more points (not rank) for less effort. The main principle of the new algorithm is that points are awarded: - If you compete directly to competitors with same hardware -> less money required - If you want easy points and do little effort -> more money required The Overclockers League, our main feature, has always been about the first group of people: those who are in competition with a lot of other people and those who are pushing their system to the absolute maximum. The fact that you need LN2 to be in the top rankings is just normal. For those who don't get the reason why 1xGPU should be awarded more points, think about this: If you are 1st in 10th in 1xGPU, having clock your entire system on LN2, you would receive an equal amount of points as the person who is 10th in the 4xGPU, who has his cards on stock air cooling and possibly only the CPU overclocked. Although the overall score might be better, the skill of being 10th in 1x is way greater than being 10th in 4x, in whatever way you look at it. There's no way how you can justify rewarding running stock air on the cards equally as running LN2 on another card. For those who claim it's all about the money, think about this: When a next generation of CPUs and GPUs enter the retail market, you'll notice that your GTX295 and HD4870X2 and 5970 scores will drop rapidly. In order to get those global points back, you'd have to invest in another dual-GPU card. However, with the new revision, since single GPU clearly is more competitive, you'd only have to spend money on a single GPU card, which is remarkably cheaper than a dual gpu card. All about the money? Think again. Furthermore, to get in the top of hwbot, you don't even have to spend a lot of money if you're willing to push the system you have. I've seen this comment by an overclocker just today: