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Thanks for the kind word guys. In hindsight, the Rookie Rumble and League is something we should have done a long time ago. But, live and learn. Thanks for the feedback too! I think we will start with a competition for the Novice guys to follow up with the Rumble. Keep the opinions and suggestions coming for the Rookie Extreme. It's really good to learn from you

Alright, should have been fixed

Damn, it was supposed the other way around ...

Awesome. Our developers are awesome

Oh, didn't know. Nice!

I replied to you all with the excel. Sorry, bit busy lately . @Andrew: no, didn't receive any email from you? Let me check my spam folder - weird.

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We're trying to find a solution for 8/8.1/10

I don't think this powerboard will be available to the general public. AFAIK only Epower was available retail (for a brief time). GPower isn't retail either.

Ah, okay, I see what the problem might be.

Hm, no, shouldn't be. Did you accidentally select TEC or so?

This issue has been around for a long time. I remember having the same issues trying 4Way at Campus Party in Berlin in 2012.

Thanks for the input JD! It's good to hear input from the people who are just beginning in this overclocking thing. I like your structure, actually. So if I get it correctly it's like: - Rookie: just starting out - Novice: air and aio watercooling (like h100 series) - Enthusiast: everything from watercooling to dry ice - Extreme: liquid nitrogen - Elite: sponsored and professional overclockers Maybe it's because it's Saturday today and my brain is lazy, but I can't grasp the implications for a transition from the current format to the one above yet. But I do think this gives people a nice "career path" in overclocking. High-end crazy water cooling systems should actually be able to compete with average dry ice systems or phase change systems. The goal is not to make specific people happy, but find answers to certain problems we're having based on usage data. For a very long time we had difficulties attracting new people to overclocking, but when we did the xtu project with intel we suddenly had a significant in-stream of new blood. When we just launched, we couldn't convince the new blood to stick around so we had to find a solution for that. That's basically the Rookie Rumble and the Rookie League. The metric we use to measure the success rate is "amount of users who are active in the quarter following the quarter they registered". We're seeing the effect now: there's never been so many people continuing to be active the quarter following their registration, ever. But now there's another problem: how to turn this new blood in really passionate hardcore overclockers? The numbers for LN2 overclocking are not great to say the least. There are many reasons for this: cost and availability of LN2, cost of competitive overclocking, discouragement from gap between "starting ln2" and "elite", etc. One of the reasons is also that people can't really "try out" LN2 and experience the effect it has on their ranking without completely losing the Enthusiast rank. So that's what this thread is about. How to give people who want to try and option to carefully set their first steps without cutting ties with the ranking they worked so hard on.

Awesome, thanks folks! I'll reply to the mails

Actually, our developers just issued a quick fix. Should be working again!

For the moment the quick workaround is browsing the site while logged out.

Of course disabling points is an option, but it's not very inspiring for people. It's a "negative action" ... I prefer to do "positive actions". Think about when you started doing extreme overclocking. At least for me, I didn't start straight with liquid nitrogen. I went from single stage phase change to dry ice and then eventually liquid nitrogen. But back then, it was a bit easier because A64 was coldbugging, there weren't "this many" people doing liquid nitrogen and the binning was less as well. I'm not sure but nowadays single stage phase change seems not really that much interesting. It's better to stay enthusiast than to go straight in competition with the heavy LN2 hitters. There's not a real step in between.

No one up for this?

Should be fixed by now I believe?

Awesome

Yup, we are aware of the issue. Thanks for reporting anyway

Thanks Taloken!

Hey guys, For a while we've been trying to figure out how to enable the new generation of extreme overclockers. With the Rookie and Novice categories + XTU and the Rookie Rumble, getting new blood to enter the world of overclocking and stick around has been quite successful. In fact, we have never seen so many people stick around and be active in the quarter after registration! We have some stuff planned to engage the Novice crowd further with Rumble-like competitions. The next step is to figure out how to enable new extreme overclockers. As far as I know based on (random) conversations there are three problems: 1) The cost to do LN2 competitively is too high 2) People don't like to be compared against the sponsored overclockers 3) Currently one try with extreme cooling moves you automatically to extreme, losing your enthusiast ranking About 1) and 2) it's difficult to do much at HWBOT, but we've created an entire platform at OC-ESPORTS for this (you can compete with AMD APU or even ARM chips if you don't want to be forced to buy 4770K + GTX 980). Issue 3) is a bit more difficult. MarshallR from the ROG forums made an interesting suggestion, though. He suggested to leave a grey zone between Enthusiast and Extreme where a user who tries LN2 can gain points for the results and is ranked in both Enthusiast and Extreme League. Of course the points in the Enthusiast League would be affected by any extreme submission. So for example: X = extreme cooling; E = ambient cooling Simplified League where the rank is calculated on the "best 5 scores with unique hardware" Result #1 - 50pts - X - CPU 1 Result #2 - 40pts - E - CPU 2 Result #3 - 30pts - E - CPU 1 Result #4 - 20pts - X - CPU 3 Result #5 - 10pts - E - CPU 4 Result #6 - 5pts - X - CPU 5 Result #7 - 2pts - E - CPU 6 Points for Enthusiast League BEFORE extreme result = 40 + 30 + 10 + 2 = 82pts Points for Enthusiast League AFTER extreme result = 40 + 10 + 2 = 50pts Points for Extreme League AFTER extreme result = 50 + 40 + 20 + 10 + 5 = 125pts So in effect: the user loses 32 pts from his Enthusiast League total after submitting the extreme cooling results. The reason is: result #3 is not taking into account because Result #1 is better and uses the same hardware. Result #6 is not taken into account because the algorithm only uses the 5 best scores of the user. What do you guys think about that?

WOW, where did you find this magical chip!

Don't focus on the versions. XTU is pretty much the most basic form of overclocking: it's a tool anyone interested in overclocking can install to try OC. To submit, you have to decide to click the button (doesn't go automatically). Per week the amount of people who "interest -> install -> click" is 6x higher than one and a half year ago.