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Zen 2 cores -Ryzen 3rd gen "to beat everything"

Performance and clocks tips for 8C/16T?  

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  1. 1. What high clocks will have Ryzen 3rd on top model 8C/16T?

    • 3.8-4 GHz base clock and up to 4.5 GHz XFR
      0
    • 4-4.2 GHz baseclock and up to 4.6 to 4.7 GHz XFR
      6
    • 4.1-4.3 GHz baseclock and up to 4.8 GHz XFR
      2
    • 4.3-4.5 GHz baseclock and up to 4.9 or 5 GHz XFR
      3
  2. 2. performance of Ryzen 3rd gen 8C/16T in CinebenchR15

    • 5-10% less than i9-9900K
      1
    • similar as i9-9900K
      3
    • 5-10% higher than i9-9900K
      5
    • 11% or more than i9-9900K
      2

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AMD has long history of great microarchitecture. As example Athlon 64 (64-bit)

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3rd Generation was teased oN CES 2019, with information of launch will be "in half of this year". What next? We know, IPC will be better than Pinnacle RIdge, its redesigned CPU as chiplet 7nm + IO part on 14nm. Also FP unit is much stronger in theory.

Ryzen 3rd generation will be propably Leadership in performance, performance/watt/features

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AMD show included CinebenchR15 demo of ES Ryzen chip 8C/16T not at final clocks against Intel i9-9900K (8C/16T with MCE enabled). Both platform have the same GPU, RAM (2666MHz), PSU. 

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we can see, AMD CPU was slighltly better, but power consumption was much better, In CPU part only  seems as half of 9900K power consumption in R15!

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Later Lisu Su confirmed, there is possible to launch more than CPU with one chiplet (so 10C/20T or 12C/24T or..up to 16C/32T). Ant thats still for mainstream AM4 socket! But back to eight core thinking...

We know, the Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+ core) can hit 2050 points in Cinebench R15 on 4450 MHz without big tweaks (4400MHz with tweaks and high clocks RAM). In theory, ES sample of Zen2 procesor could worked on 4000 MHz or 4200 MHz in load of all cores. I heard from guys, the ES on CES has max boost (XFR or something similar for light load) up to 4.6 GHz

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ok, we are close to launch...AMD must celebrating because it is 7nm  :) 27th May AMD will demonstrated something interesting at Keyonote.

It is more than clear, we will see more than 8 cores for mainstream desktop. We know, there are last samples based on new B revision and with up to 16C/32T. Still AM4 socket. But more important are CPUs with less than 16C on the start :)

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We know details about chipset

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https://www.hkepc.com/17968/

 

IPC could be very solid, propably similar (or better clock to clock) as Core 9th gen!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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native IMC is 3200 MHz (Pinnacle Ridge has 2933MHz). RAM OC profiles without BCLK could be up to 4600 MHz

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SUMMARY NOTES
AMD CPU launch will be  7.7. 2019 

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New chipset name is AMD X570 with PCIe 4.0. (on the photo is Crosshair VIII motherboard)

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IPC improvement is high 15%! It was supposed to be originally 10%. Doubled  FP and also doubled size of cache.

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CPUs can be up to 16C/32T in theory, AMD showed CPU with two chiplets.  At launch day minimal 3 models are ready.

Ryzen 7 3700X, CPU with high performance and clocks are  3.6 GHz baseclock and turbo up to 4.4 GHz and TDP only 65W (it is 8C/16T CPU)!
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-much better performance than current flagship Ryzen 7 2700X (propably close to 9900K in performance)

Ryzen 7 3800X is again eightcore with SMT, baseclock 3.9 GHz and turbo up to 4.5 GHz, TDP 105W
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Surprise is the 3800X defeat i9-9900K not only in multithread  CinebenchR20 benchmark, but also in single thread. And i9-9900K has much higher clocks for single thread ( 5 GHz).

Finally, new Ryzen 9 is here! Information about the incoming  flagship Ryzen 9 3900X with 12C/24T. Default clocks is 3.8 GHz and turbo up to 4.6 GHz. TDP is still solid 105W!
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performance demo test against Intel HEDT i9-9920X :)...

Price list.
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