miker2ka Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) I'm testing a 4800C18 kit on M11A and 9900k. The CPU can do 4200 12.11 (ram limit), and can boot single channel for validation 4900 in hot summer, 5000 with 20C room temp, so i assume it's a decent IMC. Problem with the 4800 kit is that i can't boot XMP. I tried bios 1005 and bios 033. Tried both xmp profiles, with auto and manual volatages (1.45/1.6 io/sa). Tried frequency range from 4600 to 4800. I dont't think my IMC is that week that cannot do 4600c18. I feel like i'm missing something, like i forgot a shitty setting... Tried trace centering on/off but did not had any impact. With MHC Full check enabled i get stuck at b1 and with it disabled i get stuck on 23 Edited June 23, 2019 by miker2ka Quote
miker2ka Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 I'm starting to think that 9900k have weaker IMC on average than i though. I managed to boot 4700 dual channel with 2 cores active. 4800 is no go. I gave the kit to a friend with m10a and 9900k but he can't boot 4700 or 4800 in dual either. Feel free to share your experiences with 9th gen cpu and high speed ram 1 Quote
Splave Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 16 hours ago, miker2ka said: I'm starting to think that 9900k have weaker IMC on average than i though. I managed to boot 4700 dual channel with 2 cores active. 4800 is no go. I gave the kit to a friend with m10a and 9900k but he can't boot 4700 or 4800 in dual either. Feel free to share your experiences with 9th gen cpu and high speed ram I agree I have a bunch of 9900k that won't do 4133 12-12 at all. Put same kit on 7740x and does 4200 12-11. 1 Quote
miker2ka Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 That's weird. Never had this issue at c12 with 9900k. Played with 3, all binned, cb15 @5300 1.28-1.33v, and they all could go to 4200 c12. Only noticed big differences when going for high frequencies like 4600+ Quote
dumo Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) On memory side, good a1 can do 4266c12 but probly not 4800. Some a2 can do both 4266 and 4800+c14, but some can't do both freq at all ..Provided that imc could scale up. Edited June 25, 2019 by dumo 1 Quote
Mahameru Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 10:20 AM, Splave said: I agree I have a bunch of 9900k that won't do 4133 12-12 at all. Put same kit on 7740x and does 4200 12-11. So we can say 9900K/9700K won't do 4133C12 and 4600-4800C14 is pretty common Allen? Quote
miker2ka Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, ivaneza said: So we can say 9900K/9700K won't do 4133C12 and 4600-4800C14 is pretty common Allen? From my experience it's other way around. Edited June 26, 2019 by miker2ka Quote
miker2ka Posted June 27, 2019 Author Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) On 6/25/2019 at 5:19 PM, dumo said: On memory side, good a1 can do 4266c12 but probly not 4800. Some a2 can do both 4266 and 4800+c14, but some can't do both freq at all ..Provided that imc could scale up. Tell us of your experiences IMC wise from tests you have done with same ram kit on 9900k and 9600k @websmile maybe you can tell your findings from testing lots of ram... Edited June 27, 2019 by miker2ka Quote
Splave Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 1:35 AM, miker2ka said: That's weird. Never had this issue at c12 with 9900k. Played with 3, all binned, cb15 @5300 1.28-1.33v, and they all could go to 4200 c12. Only noticed big differences when going for high frequencies like 4600+ strange I could do 4800mhz 14-13 on 3 chips I tried in Gene easily on Team Group a2 maybe just you are having bad luck with cpus Quote
Alex@ro Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 Air or water? Remember he benches now at 30 ambient :)) I binned more than 50 9900k for gskill comp, the best ones on air can boot 5100 divider in dual-channel on regular ambient, i only had one chip like that that died randomly after 2 hours with 'safe' 1.5V vccsa max. 1 Quote
dumo Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Mike's 9900k won't boot with 4800c18 kit on xmp and definitely no 4800c14. On memory side, not all 4800c18 kit can do 4800c14 bench stable, eventhough it can go 5000+ with xmp settings. Edited June 27, 2019 by dumo Quote
dumo Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AutisticChris said: Can you show the SPD for your kit? Edited June 27, 2019 by dumo 1 Quote
miker2ka Posted July 18, 2019 Author Posted July 18, 2019 Well, on air kit doesn't boot XMP, but with CPU at subzero it boots..... so it's an IMC issue i suppose . Quote
miker2ka Posted July 29, 2019 Author Posted July 29, 2019 If i can bench 4133 12.11 on a 9900k with 2 cores enabled, but with 8 cores ram is not stable anymore, does this mean that ram is good but IMC is weak on ambient? Quote
dumo Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, miker2ka said: If i can bench 4133 12.11 on a 9900k with 2 cores enabled, but with 8 cores ram is not stable anymore, does this mean that ram is good but IMC is weak on ambient? You need more cooling on cpu. Heres amd sets @ 4800c14 with subs as tight as z390. Edited July 30, 2019 by dumo Quote
HREN Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) On 6/24/2019 at 1:34 PM, miker2ka said: I'm starting to think that 9900k have weaker IMC on average than i though. I managed to boot 4700 dual channel with 2 cores active. 4800 is no go. I gave the kit to a friend with m10a and 9900k but he can't boot 4700 or 4800 in dual either. Feel free to share your experiences with 9th gen cpu and high speed ram I have 9900k (custom water cooling) and Asus Apex XI (bios 1401). Starting Windows is fine (xmp). But my 9900k has a weak IMC - linx test on 4800cl18 with errors. Raising voltage does not solve the problem. The motherboard is ready, but the IMC in the existing Intel technology is not ready for such a memory frequency Edited March 7, 2020 by HREN Quote
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