TASOS Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 This was a "no sub ambient cooling allowed" competition .... right ??? Just making sure , i translated correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) I'm a little confused as well. Currently, 25-30C degrees daily temps here and my ambient is 24 right now (no AC). If my only cooling on the bench table is a chiller (with controllable temps), then: 1. Am I allowed to participate at all? 2. If yes, then what should be my chiller set at? 3. Am I allowed to go down in temperature as long as cores are still reading positive temps? Thank you! PS: There seems to be a thread about the competition already: Edited May 21, 2022 by I.nfraR.ed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 If it's ambient it's fine. Just cool with a rad or a heatsink and you probably are fine as long as you don't do ice bucket challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Tested Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Unfortunately chillers are not allowed. It would be impossible to police anyone cheating by running sub-zero temps and then just changing the temp back up for the rig pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 That's true, however the same applies for "ambient" water cooling. Ambient is not a definitive term. Someone's "ambient" might be below zero (with the rig outside), then other people are in the summer already with degrees over 30 (Celsius) during the day, so it will never be "fair" for everyone, despite the good intentions and idea. If the verification is done by a rig pic only, then good luck verifying anything. At least Alby (@leeghoofd) has shown his "ambient" clearly, can't say about others though :p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Imho I haven't seen anything too questionable on cooling. The people with good subs are people I'd trust. Just some insane cpus is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, I.nfraR.ed said: That's true, however the same applies for "ambient" water cooling. Ambient is not a definitive term. Someone's "ambient" might be below zero (with the rig outside), then other people are in the summer already with degrees over 30 (Celsius) during the day, so it will never be "fair" for everyone, despite the good intentions and idea. If the verification is done by a rig pic only, then good luck verifying anything. At least Alby (@leeghoofd) has shown his "ambient" clearly, can't say about others though ? 32C Ambient today , here in Athens You can always use Mentos ? ? or even better ... Colgate Edited May 23, 2022 by TASOS 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 6 hours ago, yosarianilives said: Imho I haven't seen anything too questionable on cooling. The people with good subs are people I'd trust. Just some insane cpus is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Ah I see, perhaps misunderstanding the rules. Def don't think we need subs with ice in the res Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 There should have been a temperature limitation and also a temperature monitoring software in this competition. So there couldn have been any room for misunderstandings and misinterpretations. In that way it would be more fair to all. Cause that simplified "Ambient" rule is not enough ... it's already been bent or "played to the limit". I am not questioning the good intentions of the competition starter. Me and Ivan for example cannot compete , when having 30-32C ambient. We cannot match Alaska's or Alps fresh air nor the chilling night breeze. We simply cant. And i definitely dont want to fool my fellow ocers , making them believe that i found a cool place to bench. Anyway , what's done is done. P.S. Is there an expression in English about the ostrich that put it's head into the sand to hide ? A few years back a big cpu manufacturer was claiming enormous clocks from their new gen cpu , using only AIO cooling (was it a presentation or a comp , i cant remember). A few days after it was leaked , that they were pouring LN2 on the AIO's rad. Aaahh ... human nature ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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