dinos22 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i have a feeling that they will make adjustments though have a look at some of the responses guys (mods) you have to be totally impartial when you make these decisions. do not for a second lose sight of what HWBOT has been all about up to now dont ruin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNNon Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 superpi is not the only INTEL optimized benchmark superpi is only the benchmark where everyone knows that it is INTEL optimized i dont make an comparative in other benchmarks. but i know in cinebench it is the same problem! and maybe it is in other benchmarks like 3dmark ore so the same problem Think were looking at it a little backwards when we start thinking like this (no offense to OP just using as a example). Both CPU's are given the same instruction call's, it's up to the chips engineers/designers to optimize what happens with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 The only problem I see is that you may get the idea that intel users are more skilled because they get a faster time;) Apart from that, we can only hope AMD makes a CPU that's faster in spi1m. We went from ~19s to ~11s in one giant leap now, may even be sub-10 soon I think. One more leap like that and suddenly AMD is the winner:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i have a feeling that they will make adjustments thoughhave a look at some of the responses First of all, what we have is a conceptualisation of a new hwboints system, not a ready-to-be-coded format. Main ideas, main structure and a very limited set of numbers that describe a more appropriate (read: fair) distribution of points. There are no plans to translate this concept in a fully working algorythm for reasons that have already been mentioned: time, time, time . Next, the concept has nothing to do with evening things up: there's no such thing as compensating for less-performant hardware. The main idea behind the new hwboints concept was an attempt to address the known issues of skill versus points. Following a thread (on this forum) in which the skill-points issue was brought up, we tried to find an easy solution; a solution that would be more rewarding for pure skill and less rewarding for pure money, regardless of what hardware you are benching. As it turned out, there's no simple solution that benefits both the end-user (you guys!!) and is still as flexible as we want it to be (coding issues). Hence, the blueprint has been put in the freezer. As the current system works quite well (we are aware of the flaws and loopholes ), there's no urgent call to get the plans back out of the freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 guys that claim are skillful and bench AMD need to reavaluate their benching FOR POINTS........you have to be on best hardware at the time as that's where you will also encounter the best overclockers of the time to achieve the best scores of the time and score points accordingly AMD can really only still be benched for fun as its not up to par compared to Intel still.... thats the way I see it if you adjust points system for those reasons you are also as a side effect trying to make it more even and all the things i talked about earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 You're right: if we don't balance out everything, a new system could end up being worse than the one we have now, hence the reason why we're not spending every spare second on developping a new one. http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2037&page=4 In this thread, you'll find some comments regarding the skill/money/points issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiborrr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I just want a checkbox when searching to choose between Intel & AMD in SuperPI 1/32/PiF, so i know, where i stand on AMD rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew stummerwinter Posted January 23, 2009 Crew Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) For me global is global... I (might) have a VIA Epia system and I can't get global points too...(just kidding) Sry, splitting up more doesn't make sense to me, may this is a chance for AMD to improve there CPUs... Edited January 26, 2009 by stummerwinter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiborrr Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) @stummerwinter: Like SuperPI and PiFast are real-life benchmarks... I just want to ease my search when finding the fastest times among AMD systems so I don't need to type in every AMD CPU out there in search window and compare my result to it. Edited January 25, 2009 by tiborrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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