FireKillerGR Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Splave said: So you should get the courtesy of notice when ecc results would go live. While I sit here with a $2600 paperweight currently. The way things move around here you won't have to rebench you will just sub 4090ti. Sounds great for everyone ? I think you are deflecting a bit here. 1st post on this thread, you go in as the authority setting up the steps of punishment for those who got bugged scores either intentionally or unintentionally. Now, you didn't just post an ECC Off score which is against the rules (temporary or not) but actually a bugged one. So much for "We need to be better users." (2nd line of your post). Basically, since its taking time to make a decision (agreed; it takes too long and we also want to rebench ) it made sense to post a bugged score (enter rhetorical questionmark) PS. About the courtesy of knowing. Changes that affect a big part of bot should be treated with the appropriate respect and be rolled out with an actual public-official notice. IIIRC, it was during the 3rd week of December (basically end of the season) when the multi-gpu (3090) legacy scores were pulled without notice and lack of an official statement. Just based on some comments/discussions that took place back in June. Edited February 6, 2023 by FireKillerGR
Splave Posted February 6, 2023 Author Posted February 6, 2023 Deflecting what, that you can sit on the most valuable submissions in single card locked in forever? You can go on vacation for a month, nothing changes in the ranks right big joke because ECC score will never beat a non one. Must be a nice position to be in, do you want to trade? Why dont you delete your current scores and bench with ECC on and see how it feels. You will lose to guys on water cooling also for your efforts. Seems legit. If you think any scores are bugged hit the report button. Thx
FireKillerGR Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Splave said: Deflecting what, that you can sit on the most valuable submissions in single card locked in forever? You can go on vacation for a month, nothing changes in the ranks right big joke because ECC score will never beat a non one. Must be a nice position to be in, do you want to trade? Why dont you delete your current scores and bench with ECC on and see how it feels. You will lose to guys on water cooling also for your efforts. Seems legit. If you think any scores are bugged hit the report button. Thx you are focusing on ECC on/off while the main thing is that your score is bugged. Same case/criteria you started this thread against others' scores/subs on the very first post of this thread. Even wrote "2. If you are "unsure" then ask a mod or even me if it seems out of line. It is quite easy to read. " Probably you missed your own memo here. Now, regarding the sitting on locked rankings, I don't think that is on us. We flagged it and provided as much info as early as possible to get this fixed. You are in a position where you bought a gpu to bench (hopefully by worth you don't actually mean what you paid :)) ) while knowing that the rules are in the state they are. Totally your option/choice. We spent more than 300L on benching 4090 (1 L of ln2 costs 15 USD in some countries) and will most likely need to do that again to re-bench everything even though our scores are legit/in-line (recorded video for most of them). Edited February 6, 2023 by FireKillerGR
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 6, 2023 Crew Posted February 6, 2023 UL is still on it... we are awaiting their final call to either remove all ECC disabled scores or to allow them if they can provide a solid fix.... Last mail I received below Everyone involved in this thread know exactly what they did and are curently doing... Just look in the mirror and maybe have a moment of self reflection... I'll have a look at the scores as Salty seems to be busy elsewhere Interesting score here: https://hwbot.org/submission/5186983
Splave Posted February 6, 2023 Author Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, FireKillerGR said: you are focusing on ECC on/off while the main thing is that your score is bugged. Same case/criteria you started this thread against others' scores/subs on the very first post of this thread. Even wrote "2. If you are "unsure" then ask a mod or even me if it seems out of line. It is quite easy to read. " Probably you missed your own memo here. Now, regarding the sitting on locked rankings, I don't think that is on us. We flagged it and provided as much info as early as possible to get this fixed. You are in a position where you bought a gpu to bench (hopefully by worth you don't actually mean what you paid :)) ) while knowing that the rules are in the state they are. Totally your option/choice. We spent more than 300L on benching 4090 (1 L of ln2 costs 15 USD in some countries) and will most likely need to do that again to re-bench everything even though our scores are legit/in-line (recorded video for most of them). Idk bro your scene 14 looks pretty high compared to rauf. I can also compare apples to oranges. Let's be clear you are complaining about my score highlighted below. Are you kidding me? What an absolute joke. What do you think my score should be? Above or below the guys on water. XD Edited February 6, 2023 by Splave
FireKillerGR Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Splave said: Idk bro your scene 14 looks pretty high compared to rauf. I can also compare apples to oranges. Let's be clear you are complaining about my score highlighted below. Are you kidding me? What an absolute joke. What do you think my score should be? Above or below the guys on water. XD Exactly; thats why aside of the min (momentarily log) you can actually compare the scene average I believe which should be a better indicator due to its duration. Each scene takes a few seconds and the average on ours is 221.7 FPS while Rauf's is 222.03. Thats for scene 14. Now, on your sub, avg fps on scene 16 are: 282.4 (360.7 max). Ours is 208 avg (max 236) and rauf's 209 avg (238.9 max). Yours got 35% higher average for this scene vs the current #1 and 51% increase over max fps. How does this make sense to you? Because the overall impact is not that high (1 out of 17 scenes), does this mean that it isn't bugged? Edited February 6, 2023 by FireKillerGR
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 6, 2023 Crew Posted February 6, 2023 K ladies all in your corner and moan, thread locked 5
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 7, 2023 Crew Posted February 7, 2023 Since the RTX 4090 ECC drama has reached intergallactic levels. HWBOT will take a decision at the 15th of February with or without a fix from the benchmark developers. The only possible option to ensure competitive benchmarking will be to remove all ECC disabled scores. As usual we will get a lot of flaming and other love mail or even multi page PMs from the ones that feel now discriminated as they either no longer have the card and their score seems perfectly legit plus has been stamped as VALID at UL Benchmarks. Well we can't moderate properly with ECC disabled, some scores are legit some are obviously bugged, but many will remain below the radar... Thus I'm already emptying my mail box. Enjoy and let the hatred flow... 7 1
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