February 13, 20232 yr They're wrapping themselves up, they don't even know what the hell to invent. how do you do it now? Many in the top rankings would see positions torn apart, a big problem arises here. HWBOT at historic lows. LOL ?
February 13, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: @Mr. Foxanother perfect example https://hwbot.org/submission/5200989... ECC on, ROFL Are you guys slowly starting to understand now what we deal with each day... Yes, I understand what the problem is. In fact, here is another twist. I just submitted a bugged run by mistake. NVIDIA Control Panel shows ECC is enabled, but GPU-Z shows a memory value that tells me it is NOT enabled. So, maybe a driver glitch. Please delete this. It should not have any points: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201294_ I rebooted and then ran another Firestrike right on its heels and this is a valid run. This one should stay. NVIDIA Control Panel AND CPU-Z both confirm ECC is enabled. This one should stay and get points. https://hwbot.org/submission/5201316_ (but it shows no points because my bugged run is stealing them). Edited February 13, 20232 yr by Mr. Fox
February 14, 20232 yr Crew 13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Yes, I understand what the problem is. In fact, here is another twist. I just submitted a bugged run by mistake. NVIDIA Control Panel shows ECC is enabled, but GPU-Z shows a memory value that tells me it is NOT enabled. So, maybe a driver glitch. Please delete this. It should not have any points: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201294_ I rebooted and then ran another Firestrike right on its heels and this is a valid run. This one should stay. NVIDIA Control Panel AND CPU-Z both confirm ECC is enabled. This one should stay and get points. https://hwbot.org/submission/5201316_ (but it shows no points because my bugged run is stealing them). wel its simple if we spot 24GB it is out, bug or glitch or whatever you want to call it... You have a better score: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201360
February 14, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: wel its simple if we spot 24GB it is out, bug or glitch or whatever you want to call it... You have a better score: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201360 Yes, I ran that better one after posting. ? I think what happened with the bugged submission is that a TDR kicked off the ECC enablement. Since this is all driver/software based and not baked into the vBIOS the chances still exist for it. Otherwise, I would not know how to explain it being enabled in Control Panel and not actually enabled. Weird stuff... lots of bugs and glitches with the new tech. Edited February 14, 20232 yr by Mr. Fox
February 15, 20232 yr So since the other thread got locked.... When are you going to start removing scores from the ranks? Are you starting with global ranks first? And can we be alerted to which benchmarks are on the chopping block first. Thanks. Because the 15th has pretty much came and went on that side of the world, so just wondering.
February 15, 20232 yr Crew 2 hours ago, Johnksss said: So since the other thread got locked.... When are you going to start removing scores from the ranks? Are you starting with global ranks first? And can we be alerted to which benchmarks are on the chopping block first. Thanks. Because the 15th has pretty much came and went on that side of the world, so just wondering. It's already happening.
February 15, 20232 yr Well, my bugged score in Speedway that I also flagged for deletion still blocks my valid ECC enabled run: link: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201824_ When will this be fixed? Best regards!
February 15, 20232 yr Thx for fixing! ? One more left though, sorry for all the fuss! https://hwbot.org/submission/5173687_udet1916_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_18101_marks I took a break from benching and did not recognize the change in rules regarding ECC - never had any visual artifacts and my scores were not near any LN2 or H2O stuff as far as I recognized, otherwise I would have reported immediately (just air cooling 4090 atm) Edited February 15, 20232 yr by Udet1916
February 16, 20232 yr One question regarding the ecc rule, many benchmarks seem to not require ecc. 3d11 and vantage give globals but don't need ecc, how come? Also many older benchmarks without globals don't need ecc, like heaven, 3d03, 3d05 etc. Shouldn't all 3d benchmarks have the same rules, i would assume bugged runs can happen in those benchmarks also? Only exception would be gpu-pi as it does not involve memory at all and it actually checks that calculations are correct.
February 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Rauf said: One question regarding the ecc rule, many benchmarks seem to not require ecc. 3d11 and vantage give globals but don't need ecc, how come? Also many older benchmarks without globals don't need ecc, like heaven, 3d03, 3d05 etc. Shouldn't all 3d benchmarks have the same rules, i would assume bugged runs can happen in those benchmarks also? Only exception would be gpu-pi as it does not involve memory at all and it actually checks that calculations are correct. Really good question there....
April 11, 20232 yr It this expected for all 3D graphics benchmarks or only 3DMark? I ask because I see lots of submissions for things like Catzilla with ECC disabled and the only way to compete with them is to disable ECC. Are those with ECC disabled at risk for moderator deletion like the 3DMark submissions?
April 11, 20232 yr Crew We just imposed ECC in the 3DMark suite and the SuperPosition benchmarks (as they feature build in detection) older legacy benchmarks are not taken into account...
April 12, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: We just imposed ECC in the 3DMark suite and the SuperPosition benchmarks, older legacy benchmarks are not taken into account... Thank you. I appreciate the clarification. Have a good week.
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