CrKos Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 They're wrapping themselves up, they don't even know what the hell to invent. how do you do it now? Many in the top rankings would see positions torn apart, a big problem arises here. HWBOT at historic lows. LOL ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 13, 2023 Crew Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrKos Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: @Mr. Foxanother perfect example https://hwbot.org/submission/5200989... ECC on, ROFL Are you guys slowly starting to understand now what we deal with each day... Yes, I understand what the problem is. In fact, here is another twist. I just submitted a bugged run by mistake. NVIDIA Control Panel shows ECC is enabled, but GPU-Z shows a memory value that tells me it is NOT enabled. So, maybe a driver glitch. Please delete this. It should not have any points: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201294_ I rebooted and then ran another Firestrike right on its heels and this is a valid run. This one should stay. NVIDIA Control Panel AND CPU-Z both confirm ECC is enabled. This one should stay and get points. https://hwbot.org/submission/5201316_ (but it shows no points because my bugged run is stealing them). Edited February 13, 2023 by Mr. Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 14, 2023 Crew Share Posted February 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Yes, I understand what the problem is. In fact, here is another twist. I just submitted a bugged run by mistake. NVIDIA Control Panel shows ECC is enabled, but GPU-Z shows a memory value that tells me it is NOT enabled. So, maybe a driver glitch. Please delete this. It should not have any points: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201294_ I rebooted and then ran another Firestrike right on its heels and this is a valid run. This one should stay. NVIDIA Control Panel AND CPU-Z both confirm ECC is enabled. This one should stay and get points. https://hwbot.org/submission/5201316_ (but it shows no points because my bugged run is stealing them). wel its simple if we spot 24GB it is out, bug or glitch or whatever you want to call it... You have a better score: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201360 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: wel its simple if we spot 24GB it is out, bug or glitch or whatever you want to call it... You have a better score: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201360 Yes, I ran that better one after posting. ? I think what happened with the bugged submission is that a TDR kicked off the ECC enablement. Since this is all driver/software based and not baked into the vBIOS the chances still exist for it. Otherwise, I would not know how to explain it being enabled in Control Panel and not actually enabled. Weird stuff... lots of bugs and glitches with the new tech. Edited February 14, 2023 by Mr. Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 So since the other thread got locked.... When are you going to start removing scores from the ranks? Are you starting with global ranks first? And can we be alerted to which benchmarks are on the chopping block first. Thanks. Because the 15th has pretty much came and went on that side of the world, so just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Don_Dan Posted February 15, 2023 Crew Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Johnksss said: So since the other thread got locked.... When are you going to start removing scores from the ranks? Are you starting with global ranks first? And can we be alerted to which benchmarks are on the chopping block first. Thanks. Because the 15th has pretty much came and went on that side of the world, so just wondering. It's already happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udet1916 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Well, my bugged score in Speedway that I also flagged for deletion still blocks my valid ECC enabled run: link: https://hwbot.org/submission/5201824_ When will this be fixed? Best regards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udet1916 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Thx for fixing! ? One more left though, sorry for all the fuss! https://hwbot.org/submission/5173687_udet1916_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_18101_marks I took a break from benching and did not recognize the change in rules regarding ECC - never had any visual artifacts and my scores were not near any LN2 or H2O stuff as far as I recognized, otherwise I would have reported immediately (just air cooling 4090 atm) Edited February 15, 2023 by Udet1916 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 One question regarding the ecc rule, many benchmarks seem to not require ecc. 3d11 and vantage give globals but don't need ecc, how come? Also many older benchmarks without globals don't need ecc, like heaven, 3d03, 3d05 etc. Shouldn't all 3d benchmarks have the same rules, i would assume bugged runs can happen in those benchmarks also? Only exception would be gpu-pi as it does not involve memory at all and it actually checks that calculations are correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Rauf said: One question regarding the ecc rule, many benchmarks seem to not require ecc. 3d11 and vantage give globals but don't need ecc, how come? Also many older benchmarks without globals don't need ecc, like heaven, 3d03, 3d05 etc. Shouldn't all 3d benchmarks have the same rules, i would assume bugged runs can happen in those benchmarks also? Only exception would be gpu-pi as it does not involve memory at all and it actually checks that calculations are correct. Really good question there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 It this expected for all 3D graphics benchmarks or only 3DMark? I ask because I see lots of submissions for things like Catzilla with ECC disabled and the only way to compete with them is to disable ECC. Are those with ECC disabled at risk for moderator deletion like the 3DMark submissions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 11, 2023 Crew Share Posted April 11, 2023 We just imposed ECC in the 3DMark suite and the SuperPosition benchmarks (as they feature build in detection) older legacy benchmarks are not taken into account... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: We just imposed ECC in the 3DMark suite and the SuperPosition benchmarks, older legacy benchmarks are not taken into account... Thank you. I appreciate the clarification. Have a good week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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