BeepBeep2 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 +Wine, not allowed? AFAIK the rules don't state a single thing about the OS choice, I subbed two results SuperPi 1M and PiFast (Windows versions) that were running in Wine, which isn't an emulator and contains a Windows Registry just like Windows. What about OSes like ReactOS? I just want to know, and request the rules be amended... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Why running on Linux Are the times better compared to windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobnova Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 CPUz work correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) CPUz work correctly? Seems to be only CPU Frequency and RAM amount right now. Validations work though, checksum is verified as correct, so is SuperPi checksum when checked. I suppose that's enough grounds to invalidate, since CPU-Z is missing info. If it were to work though, then what stance should HWBOT take on it? The runs are generally 20% slower anyway... Edited December 6, 2012 by BeepBeep2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 For UCBench (and all other benchmarks at HWBOT), Linux is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Don_Dan Posted December 6, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 6, 2012 Linux distribution software is not allowed, WINE runs on Linux so is not allowed either. The only allowed OS to be used is Windows-based. Already posted this at XS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yeah... this is one of the well-known, unwritten rules. Would be cool to see some "all OS" rankings at some point, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 It should be written then! Both those OSes with Wine run the bench slower than native Windows...of course, all the DLLs are rewritten but you could easily install all Windows 7 DLLs too or something. I guess we are worried of someone finding a way to cheat or using a native Linux version of something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 What about OSes like ReactOS? None of the benches will work without extra work but the speed is almost up-to-par with XP. Should be allowed since it's NT based as Windows. PS: On my 5th year of testing/working on ROS, still not benchable I guess we are worried of someone finding a way to cheat No need, all cheatable under Win (check my FB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavihs Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Would be cool to see some "all OS" rankings at some point, though +1 it would be great if hwbot can get linux into the benching scene!!! would like to see the performance difference between them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I guess would could give it a whirl in the next Fanboy competition. Any benchmark that would be perfect for OS comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) @Massman SuperPi works perfectly with Wine 1.4.1 in ubuntu 12.10 x86. So does PiFast. wPrime does not work on Wine, there is a workaround but then it is stuck at 1 thread. I don't know about the Windows version of UCBench, but it probably works too since PiFast works in the cmd line. "wine cmd" in terminal CPU-Z doesn't show any info except CPU speed and memory size...initialization error. AFAIK the 3DMarks from '06 back work too (check Wine database for specifics), but most of the time scores are halved or worse. I would just use SuperPi and/or PiFast... None of the benches will work without extra work but the speed is almost up-to-par with XP.Should be allowed since it's NT based as Windows. PS: On my 5th year of testing/working on ROS, still not benchable No need, all cheatable under Win (check my FB). Edited December 10, 2012 by BeepBeep2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I guess would could give it a whirl in the next Fanboy competition. Any benchmark that would be perfect for OS comparison? UCBench has OFFICIAL builds for all 3 platforms @Beep wPrime needs the VB6 redis which is super buggy under ROS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavihs Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 we need a CPU-Z for Linux!!!! @Massman how about forwarding a request for CPU-Z for Linux to the developers at CPUID!!!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 we need a CPU-Z for Linux!!!! @Massman how about forwarding a request for CPU-Z for Linux to the developers at CPUID!!!??? Started working on a multiplatform (deb/mac/win) one based on Qt BUT there are already tools to provide info for screenshots on linux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Started working on a multiplatform (deb/mac/win) one based on Qt BUT there are already tools to provide info for screenshots on linux Not quite. I have not found a tool that provides all of the information included in CPU-Z yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Not quite. I have not found a tool that provides all of the information included in CPU-Z yet... Yea I have to admit it's not as easy as on Windows, but it's there. That is why I even considered starting this, knowing it will take forever CPU-Z: -Basic CPU info (CPUID) -Live monitoring of freq/fsb. (RDTSC?) -Board/Bios info (SMBIOS/DMI) -Mem Timings (SMBIOS/DMI) -GPU Info (driver/registry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafio Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 "dmidecode" tells you everything you need about CPU (freq, vcore, ISA, cache, etc. etc.), RAM and motherboard. write a bash script to gather and print all the useful information should be dead easy. for example: [root@mafio-ltp public]$ dmidecode -t 4 # dmidecode 2.11 SMBIOS 2.6 present. Handle 0x0001, DMI type 4, 42 bytes Processor Information Socket Designation: CPU Type: Central Processor Family: Core i3 Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation ID: A7 06 02 00 FF FB EB BF Signature: Type 0, Family 6, Model 42, Stepping 7 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) DS (Debug store) ACPI (ACPI supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (FXSAVE and FXSTOR instructions supported) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) SS (Self-snoop) HTT (Multi-threading) TM (Thermal monitor supported) PBE (Pending break enabled) Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz Voltage: 1.2 V External Clock: 100 MHz Max Speed: 2100 MHz Current Speed: 2100 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle: 0x0002 L2 Cache Handle: 0x0003 L3 Cache Handle: 0x0004 Serial Number: Not Supported by CPU Asset Tag: TBD By OEM Part Number: TBD By OEM Core Count: 2 Core Enabled: 2 Thread Count: 4 Characteristics: 64-bit capable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 But what about DRAM frequency??? I know you can already get GPU info, CPU info, but motherboard and memory I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 But what about DRAM frequency???I know you can already get GPU info, CPU info, but motherboard and memory I don't know. For motherboard dmidecode -t baseboard or use lshw-gui or open the files in /sys/class/dmi/id For memory I still have no idea , mainly because I don't know how CPU-Z reads it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavihs Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 For motherboard dmidecode -t baseboard or use lshw-gui or open the files in /sys/class/dmi/id For memory I still have no idea , mainly because I don't know how CPU-Z reads it so as i said we need CPU-Z or something similar which can provide all the info in one place & also validate it like CPU-Z does!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 @RB, open source it and I will show you the reversed variant in a matter of hours, prolly not a great idea for public benchies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Compiled java code is easy to reverse engineer Amen to that ^^. If you're interested in porting to C++ let me know. Gauss–Legendre or faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob80 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) We can use CPU-G Example screen Edited December 26, 2012 by bob80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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