yosarianilives
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1 hour ago, avalanche said:
Dude you need a holiday. Toss up some comp scores & don't stress
Going somewhere warm for Thanksgiving holiday next weekend hopefully that helps. For scores I drop as many as I can and I help team mates get as many as they can but I there's only so many people I can bench with since we don't have a nice meet like you aussies do
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1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said:
Yep on request server hardware was allowed for Y-cruncher stage, but no renting cloud servers plz.
Thanks, this is the yes no answer I wanted. Mick made it way more complicated than it needed to be.
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57 minutes ago, mickulty said:
Look, honestly you keep coming up with crap like this and all it does is make something for mods to have to deal with. What I do truely want is for you to stop one way or another.
Renting a cloud server would just be bad faith, and not the 'fair play' people are expected to engage in.
I can see how my questions are seen as pestering, however you above all people should know my career background is mainly where my attitude of constantly asking for clarification comes from.
I work in an industry that is heavily procedure and regulation bound. In short if there is any doubt in if it's procedurally or regulatory correct you stop work until its remediated or clarified by a governing body. On top of this my job within this industry is entirely based upon procedural and regulatory compliance. In short I'm used to asking "is this correct" a lot. So if the "procedure" is not clear you ask the "governing body".
Is it more fair to only allow people who have connections to run scores on Rome or allow someone without connections to pay $20 to run an equivalent server chip for a few hours. I can say that personally I have very little invested in running competition benches on cloud compute hw, but not everyone has ties to a server manufacturer for hft.
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56 minutes ago, Wasmachineman_NL said:
Just one more reason that benchmate is complete bunk and you should run Windows 7 on Ryzen/Coffee Lake like a REAL MAN.
Only people who can't into "Installing Windows for power users" run Winshit 10 to bench.
Why do people want to bash on benchmate? Where's your solution to cheating through os bug? Are you such an Uber coder that you can do it better? Please do
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I realized that even if I tried really hard and got an agp record it won't matter nearly as much as having an agp score. Played around with averages and a slight oc on the pcie card can make more difference than a hardcore agp score ever will.
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47 minutes ago, mickulty said:
You already did this joke with AM2 superpi, get new material.
This isn't a problem of how I set it, the bios wouldn't hold any higher clocks and flashing a newer bios failed with "this bios isn't for this board" error and did not allow me to force it
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1 hour ago, _mat_ said:
Try to use the latest version of HWiNFO on its own. Does that work?
I was able to launch hwinfo just fine when I was in the lab but benchmate continually hung on hwinfo initialization even when I dropped the DLLs from the working hwinfo into the benchmate folder.
I also had the issue of hwinfo initialization when running gpupi 3.2 although 3.3 didn't have any issue. I got 3.2 to run by disabling hwinfo but then it would crash on saving the datafile every time. If hwinfo was set to anything but disabled it would crash at the start of the run when it initialized hwinfo.
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So devils advocate since I just got the dumbest idea for ycruncher stage, assuming we can make sure it's only on a single socket is renting time on like an azure server allowed? Cause you can rent those by hour and at that point even an e7 8890 is kinda affordable
I know this is an edgecase "Well the rules don't say a dog can't play baseball..." type of question, sorry in advance
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Is anything special needed to get benchmate to work on windows server 2019? I'm still trying to figure out why it kept hanging on hwinfo initialization on launch. Getting ready to potentially go back to the lab next weekend and would be nice to be able run benchmate benches if rome is still around to mess with. I've heard that some things don't work in server OS driver wise because of the protected kernel shell so maybe it's that.
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12 hours ago, l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
So how's the Country Cup going for team USA?
Better than some years despite as far as I can see having almost no organization. If you want to see what we have/need PM for spreadsheet and team USA discord lol
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12 hours ago, jpmboy said:
ah - I get it, no restrictions, but the team needs one (and only one) of each, AGP, PCIE, PCI, hybrid and integrated socket... one for each "buss" type. yes?
Correct, although I think we all know that the only score that matters is pcie as long as the other scores show up because of the large difference in score. So if someone can run 7700k/7740x+RTX titan for that stage would give their team a large advantage.
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4 hours ago, havli said:
No need to OC PCI when you can run it at 66 MHz in the PCI-X slot. 775 boards with PCI-X definitely exist and I think 1366 too.
But isn't pci-x only for server. So you'd only get it on server grade boards which would fall under "No server HW allowed"
Just to play devils advocate
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So much wrong with this system but don't feel like putting in the effort to make it work right, can't even flash a better bios that will run full multiplier
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2 hours ago, ale_belo said:
nice chip for 1.75v...I'm curious about the max out
I didn't see any scaling to 1.8v but I also saw I had a pretty bad mount afterwards so perhaps it may yet scale. Probably won't rerun this until next year though unless it seems in december that this stage needs more attention paid to it. This seems a solid score for now and there's so many stages I have yet to sub lol
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2 hours ago, havli said:
You can run PCI GPU in PCI-X board, perhaps it will be somewhat faster.
Cpu still matters for 3dm06 too though. AFAIK lga 1156 is the newest board with native PCI. Which non native PCI should have a fairly impact and be especially made worse on the newer PCI gpus as they are not native PCI either so you'd be using a bridgechip to go from pcie on the core to PCI on the slot, then back to PCIE from the slot to the chipset. I did some math and even with the best possible cpu score the cost to graphics score from running non native seems to be too much for overall score.
May find an older platform like 775 may still beat 1156 if there's no way to OC the PCI bus on any 1156 or 1366 board.
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2 hours ago, mickulty said:
BTW I really like the design of the stage... even if the PCI part is really annoying for me personally.
I mean as long as you get a strong 2080ti/titan score as long as you get a pci score I think you should be good.
Although I think anyone who's started researching for PCI score will have seen that it doesn't necesarily matter the core used that much anyways as PCI is very limited and if you have to convert from pcie to pci to pcie it has a disadvantage over just pcie to pci conversion.
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11 minutes ago, _mat_ said:
The textures and models were correctly loaded though. That integrity value is reset on each run.
Something for sure fucky then
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Setting new goal posts like it's ez
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Casual 6, holy fuck balls
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35 minutes ago, jab383 said:
Also seems to be missing the rendered picture
Score is probably because it rendered exactly what you see
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I feel like there's a lot I don't know about this bench. Probably half the score I should be at
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Huge score! Intel HEDT is in trouble
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5 hours ago, superpatodonaldo said:
bug ?
I'm sure that's a legit score
The official Country Cup 2019 - 10th Anniversary Edition thread.
in HWBOT Competitions
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It sucks for those wanting to push legacy hw but it's also nice to have less scores to worry about. Overall I'm divided on the issue for how I feel.
However, this competition has been going on since nov 1. It is absolutely too late for people to ask for rule changes only clarifications imho, especially when there was a planning thread open for more than a month for people to ask for stages to be changed. It would become stage 14 2.0 where people demanded change, their was a vote, nobody could agree, and finally the fact the competition had been going for 10 days already led Leeg to make the correct decision and change nothing.