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  1. I think that everyone would agree that the current comp time is tough for many due to all the holidays in November/December so I propose that for Country Cup 2020 we move when it is to a different part of the year. I know the current Country Cup isn't even over but depending when people would like it to be moved to we may need to start the discussion now. Anyways poll is what time of year you think it should be, currently q4 is a bit hectic so I'd like to see it in q2 or q3.

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  2. 41 minutes ago, mickulty said:

    Retail hardware is treated as a 'black box', and post-retail modifications aren't treated as changing what the hardware is (this also goes for unlocking 6950s, 290s, furies, X800 Pro VIVOs etc even if the unlocked 290 is 'effectively' a 290X in basically every way).

    The real peculiarity is the BGA to LGA chips, there might be a case for them getting their own hardware category if "dodgy ebay/aliexpress seller" can be counted as "retail", whereas currently it seems to have defaulted to them being treated as a socket adapter with added convinience.

    That's a fair stance, which also brings up the question of the "semi professional" chinese companies that make the permanently modded to lga 775 server chips although that probably will be left cause it's would be way too confusing with rankings.

    But ig to go back to my original question, if I mod an AGP or PCI to be natively PCIe it would have a huge advantage, especially on PCI but it would still be an AGP/PCI card because that's how it shipped retail.

  3. 31 minutes ago, mickulty said:

    If you want to make it relevant then just look at the question as "Should we treat non native AGP/PCI as AGP/PCI". Which if treated like cpus the answer would be no, as when cpus run non native sockets (771 in 775, 479 in 278, haswell bga on lga 1150, etc) they get treated as the native socket not the one which they were actually run on.

    However historically this has not been the case for non native gpus, personally I think they should be left as AGP or PCI if that's the out of the box configuration as at this point it would piss off too many people to change it to the native socket. But are they really any different than lga 771 cpus that have the pad mod soldered on and edges cut so they fit into a 775 board with zero modifications? Or the haswell chips with the conversion from BGA to LGA soldered on?

  4. 18 minutes ago, bigblock990 said:

    For benching AMD with windows 8.1/server/10 not only is benchmate legal, it is REQUIRED  :)

     

    28 minutes ago, bolc said:

    Thanks for the reply

    Will do w7 then, but on w10, haven t noticed much difference on cbr15, gb3 etc between benchmate and not, for instance

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4295641_bolc_geekbench3___multi_core_ryzen_5_2600_28323_points

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4296304_bolc_geekbench3___multi_core_with_benchmate_ryzen_5_2600_28346_points

    "For Ryzen and 2D Benches:

    Y Cruncher, GPUPI, x265, Realbench and CPU-Z benches (CPU Freq, Ref clock and Mem freq) are all fine provided HPET is enabled which each of those benches will show in the screencap.

     

    For 3D Benches:

    3DMark11 (Entry/Performance/Extreme), 3DMark Vantage, GPUPI 

    The 3DMark suite including Firestrike, Skydiver, Cloud Gate, Ice Storm, VRMark and Time Spy are all fine provided you have a validation link that has no timer errors present.

     

    All others need to be run through Benchmate if possible, there are some benchmarks that Benchmate doesn't work with at the moment however but that's slowly changing.

     

    This also applies to any non lake Intel platform as well but the current focus and confusion for some is where Ryzen sits."

    Credit to @Bilkowho made this list on Discord and I copy pasted it

     

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  5. On 11/24/2019 at 5:50 PM, e_junkie said:

    Thank you very much. I have a picture attached to my ZOTAC GT 520 PCI. Is that okay? The memory manufacturer and the size may vary.

    ZOTAC_GT520_PCI.PNG

     

    On 11/25/2019 at 8:35 PM, TerraRaptor said:

    Riva should detect pci I think

    So I'm thinking over how the driver seems to handle seeing a PCI card with a bridge chip as just a PCIE card, and it makes me wonder purely hypothetically could you bypass the bridge chip at the hardware level and go directly to PCIe with essentially the PCI or AGP bus hanging to the side as almost a vestigial bus. While I don't expect or plan on seeing this during the comp it could in theory be possible and would raise the question of if it's even still an AGP or PCI card since you've bypassed the PCI/AGP portion of the card. I'd think at first it would be like a cpu adapter where the cpu is still treated as it's original socket, but you're not converting from AGP/PCI to PCIE, you're preventing a conversion from PCIE to AGP/PCI. 

    But if we say that bypassing the pcb level adapter makes it no longer an AGP/PCI card then can we even say it was a AGP/PCI card to begin with as it's just an adapter built into the card to go from PCIE to the intended bus in basically the same way the interposers for mobile haswell chips bring them to desktop sockets.

    I suppose this has no relevance to the current comp anymore,especially since nobody is going to risk a rare gpu to try this myself included, but reading back through the discussion kinda brought up a head twist.

    I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A LOOPHOLE GOD DAMMIT! SO PEOPLE DON'T FUCKING CUSS ME OUT FOR THIS SHIT

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  6. 2 hours ago, TerraRaptor said:

    6990, 7990, 295x2, radeon pro vega ii duo - seems every generation until now has some sorts of dual-gpu cards.

    So apparently there isn't a vega pro duo but there is a fiji and polaris. The vega dual gpu card is the v340 which doesn't have proper drivers for an OS, it has drivers for esxi and basically is only made for VMs. Lots of other gcn based dual gpu cards from AMD that you haven't mentioned though ;) 

  7. 38 minutes ago, Digg_de said:

    OC is my Hobby since '99 when a Friend helped me out to build my first Custom PC with a overclocking Board (Abit BX6 Rev2.0). 20 Years now..i am so old... :P

    I think we all fear the day that there are members in the hobby younger than our own experience. ;) 

  8. 6 minutes ago, keeph8n said:

    The animosity is insane. OC(XOC) is a community. We here are a community. Stop belittling people and putting others down.

     

    Indeed, not sure how people expect that being a dick will translate to the hobby growing. Of course there is the more sinister possibility that they want OC to be a members only club with basically no allowance for new members. I hope not because history has shown time and time again that mentality benefits exactly zero hobbies.

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  9. Really hoping to see good things from Greece, would be nice to have anyone dethrone AU. Certainly not holding out hope for USA as we seem to have a similar problem of the "big bois" not having much interest in this comp due to lack of modern HW. Even if you guys don't beat AU the more teams that put up a good fight, the more competition, and the more interesting and fun that the competition is.

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