knopflerbruce

I'm using the latest version of Multi Core PI@LINPACK and I'm getting errors when uploading my xml files for both benchmarks. Why? I'm definately using the latest version. What about allowing manual uploads until this is fixed? The screenshots I've made should fit the regular rules (two CPUZ tabs + score window) nicely. There's no point in having a benchmark where you can't submit scores:o Error: Invalid data file: Unable to decrypt the datafile

The last one could very well be the activity thing kicking in.

Just wait till you have to pass the alcometer blow test to be allowed to enable ln2 mode:D

It's already here The only downside I know of is that I get corrupted PI xml every now and then. Seemingly for no reason, running all sorts of benchmarks fully stable. Sounds strange that a sall file would be messed up due to instability, then.

Why all this talk about "voicing an opinion", There's nobody here trying to make some opinions disappear. However, it's also a place for discussion - so if you post something I disagree with, I use arguments to show that your arguments are incorrect.

Yep, same thing appløies to HWBot prime, Multicore Linpack and Multicore Pi. You can use whatever tab you like in CPUZ, and place it everywhere, including over the score field. For HWBot Prime the "save" box covers the score. It's still included in the file, so not sure how important it really is...

Check your profile. You still get both points and cups. I'm still 2nd in HW masters, and I've got a fair share of globals, too. The globals just don't count towards a ranking anymore. You've still got them, though. Top rankings are different, but in the end the problem is the same - the quality varies alot in the low competition rankings, which must be taken into consideration. There is also a very limited number of such rankings, and the points drop quite fast. Not everyone can be number one... we've already got some fights with servers overclocked 50%+ in wprime. If wprime and cinebench, and other benchmarks that scale properly with many threads (24 and above), get WR points, that will help a bit if the globals for such rankings get a huge drop.

Thankfully, I don't think such a requirement will ever exist - for at least three reasons: we need a reason to buy and bench unbenched hardware. A few points and a set of cups... that's enough. A 2 point reward pr benchmark is already rather close to the "why bother spending time and money onm this"-limit. 2 points won't do much good alone, either, you need a couple of thousands before you start climbing the HW masters rankings Also, points are already rewarded - you cannot remove points for hardware that people already paid for and spent time benching, for an already really tiny reward already. I'm pretty sure alot of the HW masters would quit instantly simply because it would take disrespectfulness to a whole new level A possible third reason: why would new users bench... say their laptops when they get no reward? We'd lose page hits and members = not good.

"No reason" is subjective. As explained earlier, only the very top scores should be rewarded if you want to avoid points given to "no effort" subs. One can always argue that one shouldn't get points because one has better cooling (or better hardware) than someone else. You're probably the only one making a point of cups... I never bragged about my 3000 ones. It's a curiosity that I have so many, nothing more than that. If I'm first in a ranking, I should get the gold cup - it's the definition of a top spot that you're unbeaten, regardless of competition. Others can compete if they wish, but maybe they're terrified by my results. I don't know. It's all speculation. There's also no ranking that's based on silverware, so you don't get much recognition for these things - only people that give you thumbs up for for your dedication.

Ticket ID: 1734 Priority: Low ARES2 seems to be an overclocked version of HD7990, listed in HD7970x2. Why not merge the two? The 7970x2 marking in price listings was there because 7990 was not officially released at the time.

Huge flaw in your reasoning: what are the 2 points good for? NOTHING, unless you're fighting in the hardware master's league, and in that league dedication means alot. It's a league for the insane, who can stand spending hundreds of hours running benchmarks in rankings, and getting scores worth 1-2 points pr half-hour benchmark. In XOL you won't get ANYWHERE with those 20x2=40 points that count towards the total:) Top 500, perhaps? ...plus, there's very little skill involved in most of the popular categories as long as you have a decent hardware and proper cooling. Boot'n'run as well, nothing has changed - apart from adding vaseline and some toilet paper for insulation - not exactly "overclocking skill" in a normal sense. Not to mention the huge amount (10+ in many cases) of points you get, for "nothing", compared to the small amount of 2 you get for running unbenched HW.

Thank you, sir! These chips are hard... never seen a chip eating LN2 like that before. With some luck, maybe I can push it another half multi... more than that seems like a no-go.

I think some of you underestimate the skill needed to be 1st out of 10-15. It's just as hard as being ~10th in a very popular hardware ranking, even though the reward is much less. FOr no-competition stuff it's different, but you don't need much competition before it gets alot harder to be number 1.

Must be great to add a retail CPU every once in a while Thanks!

I know I've been refreshing some rankings from time to time to see the impact. However, is it possible to get some more details on the algorithm? You've covered the changes for the 'obscure' rankings, but you've also mentioned changes for "medium-popularity" rankings...? I cannot find the post, maybe it's my brain that's messing with me.

PJ could probably give you the detalis. http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_-_32m/rankings?start=0&cores=1#start=0#interval=20 60 points for this one does not match the # of users competing. I bet it would be 100+ under normal circumstances, and who knows what will happen when the "obscure ranking fix" is done. Maybe it will drop further? Not sure how the fix works, if it counts activity or participants.

Ticket ID: 1729 Priority: Low Stock:\r\n\r\nhttp://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2852637\r\n\r\nUnlocks to 5x and 6x.

True I love it!

Sadly, points are mostly rewarded by the number of "noobs" you beat, rather than the actual skill required to beat your score. Not only that, inactive rankings get devalued simply because there are few recent subs, not because the submission skill level has decreased.

Seems like you have two main options - 1: break NDA, or 2: don't use NDA mods or whatever. Option 3: edit the video so that the soldering point is greyed out. No wonder no-one else got the mods if they're under NDA... And I wonder if you take advantage of mods/tweaks others have shared? If yes, what's the big deal if you share a mod YOU figured out?

I guess refclock/mem freq are also exceptions to the screenshot rule.

Don't forget that it's more than likely that we'll ban those who cheat from HWbot for a few months

Stupid request: can you try to run hyperpi 32m? I'm having a bad time getting my A1 chips to run fully stable...

What's the limit for a stock card? Maybe highest seen so far + 50MHz? Just throwing out ideas... Golden cards do exist.

I agree with this. Thinking that WE would want to ban these inventions that we have praised before is ridiculous. The reasoning behind that conclusion has to be borderline ret*rded. C'mon! Disclaimer: This is the opinion of me, as an individual, and does not necessarily represent the views of other crew members. I'm also sorry if anyone got butt-hurt by reading this post.