Strunkenbold

It's good to have this clear now, before someone makes a sad face at the end of the comp.

I red now through the 8 pages of the design thread. Yeah, you didn't really receive any answer to your question. So I think the intention was, to only allow non eDRAM devices. I guess Alby wanted to see a high megahertz competition between different gens of k processors, and he especially wants to see some haswell action. So that's why, no broadwell allowed because they share the same socket 1150. But Intel integrated stuff is really complicated, having tons of different IGPs with strange names and CPU sockets. I remember the the i7 4770R, which is by definition of intel a desktop CPU, but bga and quite rare and expensive. I think properly tuned this can maybe eliminate the need of a ivy bridge score. And also other high end iris plus laptop parts could possibly see an advantage over ivy. It all depends on how much you can push ivy IGP under LN2. Back to my initial question, based on my theory above, the Chinese CPU creations aren't allowed in the comp, correct?

Got a link to this discussion?

I ordered such a CPU earlier this year, cause I have friend working in China, and luckily received a non ES one. Granted half of those ordered CPUs are ES chips.

I didn't read through all of this, so this may have already answered. Stage 10 is divided by CPU socket. So Mobile chips can be used. There are some fancy Chinese CPU creations, having a mobile chip on a shim for LGA socket. It's basically a form of BGA to LGA adapter. Running a mobile chip in a desktop motherboard can yield some slight advantage, especially if you plan to run them under cold. But technically those are custom creations and thus are actually falling under the retail available hardware rule. On the other hand, the CPUs itselfs where retail available. It's just the shim that was created by third party and they are available to anyone who can organize the shipping from China. I just want to double-check that, hence I ask. https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=601707837844&spm=a21wu.9600033.recommend.1&main_itemid=569787869219&go_item_id=601707837844&pvid=e873a56b-b808-4a4c-a86e-19b08e3f2a48&utparam={"x_object_type"%3A"item"%2C"x_object_id"%3A601707837844}&scm=1007.20269.110938.1002003000000001

Seems there are at least two of them: http://www.cpushack.com/2018/07/03/cpu-of-the-day-the-intel-everest-series/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/blackops_6_core_460ghz/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/blackops_4_core_440ghz/

Never heard of a A57 chipset. Is this something special? Maybe you could take a look under the heatsink? Added as Q57 until I know more https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/2aa6/

If we leave the limitation to Deneb and Suzuka, the only thing which can be unlocked is the CPU Cache and that wont make a difference with wprime. There are enough CPUs to choose anyway.

Seem someone added CPU Core Deneb (6M) but never matched a real CPU to it. So it was actually empty and never used. I can create cpu cores with individual cache sizes though- if it was actually intended that way, no problem. However for now, I renamed Deneb (6M) to Suzuka and matched those Opteron 13xx parts to it. I also made Phenom II X4 840 and 850 a Propus.

Ok I just checked cpu-world and saw that the 840 and 850 are indeed Propus and need to get fixed in the db. Thanks for the hint! But the rest of the 800 series has a L3 cache and are Deneb. I never understand why we make such restrictions though. I mean you can basically make a Deneb from all lower bin 45nm K10 chips. Why not allow them all?

Thx for the hint! Seems like CPU-Z doesnt detect properly, renamed the category to catch both names. https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/celeron_e3000e3900_es/

Thx, just ran out of time yesterday...

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/x11sca_f/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e_2226g/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/cuv266_d/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/quadro_5000m/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/sl_54u5/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/f1a55_m_lk_r20/

Just want to say that there are issues with the hardware admin page. I'm waiting for a fix... Until then no additions from me, unfortunately. ☹️

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/pv530_itx/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/945gc_m4/ Wow, had to add ISA socket to hwbot for this: ? https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/cl_gd5401/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/tvga9000b/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/179b/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/2101/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/s651m/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/diskproduct/wd_blue_ssd/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/b450m_gaming_plus_ms_7b87/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/0rw199/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/80fd/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/z390_m_gaming/

https://hwbot.org/hardware/diskproduct/dc500r/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/rog_zenith_extreme_alpha/

Seperated both. Should work now.

CPU doesnt exist. Or show pictures from the heatsinkless CPU. Probably: https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/eden_esp_6000_nehemiah/