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https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/celeron_e3900_es/

Trident Z Royal was already added in the meantime. The rest got added now. Still no possibility to add PSUs.

Complete Coffee Lake H refresh line up is now in the db.

You do your analysis on base of programs that simply never show the correct results except the CPU is at its standard configuration? We talk about an 8 year old result which was made for 2 points and took almost one hour two finish and accuse him that he used a different CPU to be #1 in this category? Really? For me that doesnt make sense. So thats why Im asking if this is physical possible? Those bugged programs doesnt proof anything. IMO

Isnt it possible that he runs his CPU with 50Mhz FSB? Its kinda hard but should be doable. I really wouldnt trust cpuchk, as its possibly kinda confused with the configuration. Anyways Im open for other opinions.

Its really great that you are still trying make the database as correct as possible. Really didnt know about this.

https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/ga_k8vm800m/

Seems you already found the correct category: https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/mobile_radeon_r7_graphics_wani_ddr4/ There were just some people submitted results with desktop parts, sorry I dont have time to move those over, please just report them.

Might be a good idea to get in contact with the boys from CPU-Z. I guess they would be quite interested to get some information from those rare systems. https://www.cpuid.com/contact.html

I think he meant that the first post of this page needs an update. @richba5tard Could you fix the first post? (and hopefully take this forum thread on someday to the main page)

Its already there. Even it might be a little bit hidden. https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_r5_m330__m430__radeon_520/

Damn I could swear I catched all of those K10 CPUs. But hey, there was also the 615e missing. https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/athlon_ii_x4_610e/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/athlon_ii_x4_615e/

I was always looking at this list: http://holicho.lib.net/wcpuidv3/wcpuidv3.htm I saw some special made boards and they used TurboPLLs on Tusl/Cusl and ST6. https://web.archive.org/web/20020613021345/http://isweb32.infoseek.co.jp/computer/atomoc/mb_st6.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20030829142535/http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/ha/id25302/cusl2.html https://web.archive.org/web/20021016083001/http://holicho.lib.net/ But youre correct. Using this on boards which cant run bus speeds asynchronous just dont make sense. So after looking into this today, I think the only fixed input from the pll is for the clock / system time and they used the pll ic to remove the limit of the onboard pll ic. And some have fixed frequency for usb an ps/2. I think I got this wrong for some years now. So today I really learned something. Now you and other achieved over 260 Mhz without any pll mods. So this makes me wonder why the japanese boys were so keen on those turbo plls if its actually possible without.

Didn't some of them did a pll mod for their boards? I guess that should completely take out the problems with the PCI/agp bus. Thanks for your suggestions. Wish I had time to overclock those systems again.

I used many IDE drives in the past and every of them managed to let me achieve over 200 MHz FSB. If you struggle at 155 MHz, it's most likely your CPU. Only a few CPUs manage over 200 MHz on air. Most need at least SS to achieve this. But for some it's just impossible. I appreciate all those great tips in this thread. I really never thought that those cheap IDE to SATA adapters are able to handle the high PCI clocks very well. Even though I own such things, I was always too lazy to try out.

Ah now I see this. Yes this is an old bug. Appeared already multiple times in the past. IMO it's a problem how the bot handles name strings. For some reason the bot isn't able to handle exact strings. If there is something similar, it just chooses this It's like the search engine had always a bug if you search for users. Like you search for submissions from user "blablabla". If there is also a user "Blabla". The bot just shows subs from him. But the are no results from the actual "blablabla" query.

This is correct. Raven CPUs are Zen gen1. AMDs Marketing Team decided to give them 2000er numbers. Zen+ aka Zen gen 2 will have 3000er numbers BTW.

Well I think AMD had actually the intention to release it. At least it was rumored and I really thought it gets released. However, I think AMD did not introduce another marketing name for it when the powercolor nano got released, so I guess it can be deleted from our db.

Well that is something unique for sure. However if I understand correctly, those Co processors can just work with a main CPU. Is any program able to detect those combos? I mean, I dont know if it makes sense to add co processors at all to the db, probably need another opinion from Antinomy here.

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/am386_sxsxl_33/ Dont know if I should go with this name scheme though.

Just want to say that we mostly rely on data from CPU-World and TPU GPUDB. I know that CPU-Z as GPU-Z have problems showing the correct code name for recycled or castrated parts. That often happens if the vendor doesnt change the IDs of those parts. Thats the reason why CPU-Z /GPU-Z doesnt match our db in some cases. On that FM1 performance issue: I put an answer already in the _mat's thread where he examined the issue. But in case you didnt read yet... The reason why older bios versions are faster is that AMD turned of a feature of those CPUs because they found a bug which can cause the CPUs to hang. GPUPI makes heavy use of division operations. Llano CPUs actually have a unit that can do those division operations very fast. But because of a bug, AMD decided to turn that unit off. Those operations need to go through other units of the CPU now which are a lot slower. In case you ask now why nobody in the last 7 years bothered, the reason is that division operation seem to be just not that important under normal workloads, yet GPU-PI makes heavy use of it. If you want to re-enable the performance, without downgrading your Bios or your OS: https://www.passmark.com/forum/performancetest/3705-amd-llano-a-series-benchmark-and-cpu-bug?t=3656 Cbjaust already confirmed that it works.

Thx for testing this. Maybe _mat_ can confirm. I think this is getting us to a comfortable position where we can safely allow this "tweak". Its just like we did with The Stilts work optimizing Superpi performance on Bulldozer, afaik he was also messing around with CPU registers.

Yes I remember there was something similar with those unlocked Haswell mobile CPUs. You have to prevent that Windows loads the intel firmware on boot. I dont think that you need to implement the fix in GPUPI. All needed is the patch exe from the passmark guys. To quote their readme: This is reminds me of The Stilts Bulldozer Conditioner... All we need is someone to test if it really works. I think I have somewhere a board and a CPU both from scrap and not known to work maybe its time to test this bundle now.

Great work identifying the problem!! And now some wild guessing since I read there are a lot of division operations happen but Im no programmer, so I actually dont understand at all what you wrote on the first page: http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1334532731 Maybe their patch helps to restore performance? https://www.passmark.com/forum/performancetest/3705-amd-llano-a-series-benchmark-and-cpu-bug?t=3656 edit: this would also explain why agesa doesnt matter, as this needs to be done by bios manufactures.

Its not that easy. We cant start to ban people because they have a different opinion. But in my opinion the reason why many people are unhappy is because the website didnt received the work which is actually needed to provide a satisfying experience. And I dont see that this changes. Instead the bot is producing unhappy users everyday.