Strunkenbold

Ticket ID: 1747 Priority: Low http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=801&proname=NF98-QM57-LF\r\n\r\nCPU-Z validation available if needed, but no informations in it just \"to be filled by O.E.M.\"

The new global points algorithm doesnt apply to 5x cores, 1st still gets 60 points but there arent even 40 submissions.

+1 Grab an 960T, unlock it, make scores, have fun. Same goes probably to this i3 setup. These are really affordable possibilities in entering OC and getting actually some points. Ofcourse getting 60 globals in superpi is a much harder job but we really take out diversity of the competition. Who will will fire up 4 Opterons for 10 points? I just want to say dont make the bot too strict, too exact. Let mutliple ways to accomplish things. I guess we cant change this now anyway as the patch seems to be about to be applied. So this was just my 2cents....

Ive compiled now a list for Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge and Haswell These should be simple and accurate enough. As performance also mainly depends from L3 Cache of CPU, categorys could be even more diverse to be 100% fair

Last attempt on this... Desktop: Model, Core HD Graphics (Sandy Bridge), GT1 Sandy Bridge HD Graphics (Ivy Bridge), GT1 Ivy Bridge HD Graphics 2000, GT1 Sandy Bridge HD Graphics 2500, GT1 Ivy Bridge HD Graphics 3000 6Mb L3, GT2 Sandy Bridge //deviceid 0112, i5 2500k// HD Graphics 3000, GT2+ Sandy Bridge //deviceid 0122// HD Graphics 4000, GT2 Ivy Bridge Server: Model, Core HD Graphics P3000, GT2 Sandy Bridge HD Graphics P4000, GT2 Ivy Bridge Mobile: Model, Core Mobile HD Graphics (Sandy Bridge), GT1 Sandy Bridge Mobile HD Graphics (Ivy Bridge), GT1 Ivy Bridge Mobile HD Graphics 3000 3Mb L3, GT2 Sandy Bridge //deviceid 0116, i3 and i5// Mobile HD Graphics 3000, GT2+ Sandy Bridge //deviceid 0126, i7// Mobile HD Graphics 4000, GT2 Ivy Bridge

Desktop: Model, Core HD Graphics (Haswell), GT1 Haswell //will be probably in Celerons, already exists in one server cpu// HD Graphics 4600, GT2 Haswell Iris Pro 5200 graphics, GT3e Server: Model, Core HD Graphics P4600, GT2 Haswell Mobile: Model, Core Mobile HD Graphics (Haswell), GT1 Haswell //will be probably in Celerons// Mobile HD Graphics 4200, GT2 Haswell Mobile HD Graphics 4400, GT2 Haswell Mobile HD Graphics 4600, GT2 Haswell Mobile HD Graphics 5000, GT3 Haswell Mobile Iris 5100 graphics, GT3 Haswell Mobile Iris Pro 5200 graphics, GT3e I like the idea of consistent name scheming, although HD 4200, 4400, 5000 and 5100 have no desktop counterpart (yet). Source

One more word to this; Im absolutely right to report subs if their are in the wrong categorys. As I knew that categorys arent correct I started this thread to make everyone aware of that. Im not a mod, I dont work for HWBot. So if you dont like the current situation, start bugging the mods instead of me. Maybe you have more luck.

Ok right, I changed my mind for a little time during this discussion. First I wanted to separate everything in mobile and desktop. Cause from my point, only this would be the only way to guarantee a fair competition. At this time I guessed everyone would understand aswell. Than people popped up and said same chip on desktop and mobile = one category. I began thinking about again. As everything I said seemed to be superseded by arguments from the mods. At this time I already thought I fight against windmills. See my thread here. I guess this is the only thread that Turrican ever ignored completely.... So what to do now? I started to report subs as I thought I would gain attraction for this thread. Maybe other users start to discuss. Ofcourse nothing happend, besides other users started to report my subs (the usual game)... And yes, your absolutely right reporting subs without correct categorys is a waste of time. I waited and waited -again nothing happened.So that was the point I said lets just have the mods their way. I reported everything what shouldnt be there as I was basically done with this topic. I had never imagined that we had to start such an epic discussion just to create some hw categorys. Still, in post #32 I made a last attempt laying down all the facts I know and to my honest surprise it was successful. I think that one that you dont get is that I if we want to make things 100% exactly, we have to create lots of categorys. I tried to explain this in post #34. Splitting Desktop and Mobile? Ofcourse! But also split HD Graphics and HD Graphics 2000? Its same hardware, on the same socket with the same possibility to alter clock speeds. The chip is 1000% exactly the same. I said lets find a more elegant solution... But as Christian said this could irritate. I wanted to finish a list but still waiting for answer to post #39.

Thx for confirm. Seems to be still not fixed...

Did you actually red the whole thread? I guess you didnt. Cause else you wouldnt have come to the conclusion that I want to mix desktop and mobile counterparts in one category. Actually I "fight" for over 5 pages now to alter _exactly_ this situation! Dont know whats the current situation now. Whats the next step Mr. Ney?

Somehow the links in the "Hardware Details" of any submission arent working anymore. Tested with Chrome and IE. Anyone else, or its just me?

Oh thx! Im not on XS so I missed that thread.

Incredible result! Nice to see some AMD superpi performance. It seems Im the only one who dont knows the app "The Plow of Bulldozer"? I cant imagine a 2-3sec increasement in sp1m by just manually alter some pstates so it must be the app, or whatever kind of magic you apply here... ...and why did the little bulldozer lost its plow? Sorry for asking Im just curios

impossible on air, must be bugged...

Another crazy result, didnt want to know how much time you spend on voltage tweaking to receive such an high htt...

Outstanding... What chips? Winbond?

That's great, thx!

Shouldnt this score then get completely removed? As the third doesnt get the points for his actual 2nd place, or is this just a bug?

Back in the days without any wrapper we used prioaff.exe tool to manually assign on which cores AQ3 should run. Genie, would that be hard to implement? There are some OS's outthere where you need to run the bench on atleast 2 cores before full performance is achieved.

I tried to tweak a little bit but I dont even come close to Hondacity... 6:35:407 is all I got.. Oh, and eng.ahmedhelal's run is at 5300Mhz

Try to run on all cores. AM3 shows huge bumps in performance running with at least 2 cores. Im missing some kind of checkbox window, where I can select on which cores I want to run the bench.

Ok I see that things probably becomes complicated. Still, apart from clockrates its same hardware. Maybe we can add a description somewhere?

yeah but shouldnt mods handle older results based on cpu and device id? When once everything is sorted, new submissions should get correct category by users.

Device ID would work, although it doesnt look that good. Wouldnt exact GPU-Z name not enough? And better take some days vacation.

This will be a more complicated list. Good would be a consistent name scheming but GPU-Z doesnt do us this favor. Maybe some things to discuss before we start: Probably merge of 82852 and 82855 category to 82852/82855 GM/GME as GPU-Z doesnt distinguish between those two anyway. Same for GMA 4500, X4500, X4500HD to GMA 4500 (B43, G41, G43, G45, Q43, Q45) and GMA 4500M and 4500MHD to GMA 4500MHD (GL40, GS40, GS45, GM45) There are different chipsets but gpu core is the same. Also doesnt we always enter the codename as Core? Currently there are mostly the chipset names.