Leeghoofd

removed from the low clock challenge competition due to missing Zentimings in the screenshot. Score is valid for normal ranking

For proper verification we require additional CPUZ tabs for CPU and memory at HWBOT. Also usage of BenchMate benchmarking tool is mandatory for AMD ryzen and Win8/10 submissions. You can grab it at www.benchmate.org

yes no ramdisk nor cache

deleted 2 out of 3 think I corrected most 945GC mobos now to the correct chipset

For Elite I don't see a problem Allen, although they don't reflect the retails I know

For the single threaded ones you are right Allen, but for the multithreaded benchmarks you have way more options than the 3D guys right? Anyway its nice to already receive inputs for the point system, Roman had some ideas there. But that will be another thread. I don't see any big changes to the points before Q1. There's just way too much to do behind the scenes to get it smooth sailing. Tim is doing a hell of a job, but its about stuff which is way out of my League. As you know this project should have started the latest in Spring this year to be maybe ready for 2021.

crazy AMD scores today, well done

Added 7-zip again, removed globals for Wprime, y-cruncher 2.5B in the making

Mentioned in the bug list in the OP

Don't forget the zentimigns if you want to participate in the low clock challenge. Thank you

plz add the zentimings for the competition next time

plz rebench without Physx forced

you can beat him for sure

It's not out yet bro... We use what we have atm

Ill add it to the stage rules that only graphics driver not approved is acceptable. mail the FM screenshots to me plz I'll add them to the sub @superpatodonaldo, nope still hidden, let's do the above

Skydiver was already requiring a VALID link since January so that's nothing really new. The Firestrikes remain exempted and can still use lod tweaking.

And where does one stop with software improvements? What is a database worth if one would allow this for each and every benchmark? Comparison and Dbase thrown out of the window, ditch CPUZ, screenshots, no more need... pulling all of these scores... Seems I need to revise all the new rules and impose dozens of Don't do's again, same as the old ones had.... one step forward, 2 steps back....

you are really comparing apples and oranges Yosi and are way to hard thinking as a software guy... LOD on modern cards for legacy benchmarks isn't even required, no clue why you bring this up... Maybe I'm the database keeper, but if the benchmark becomes way more efficient as you said it, shouldn't we classify it under another category... as it has become "more optimized". We have had these optimisations with XTU, X265, GPUPI 3.3 and it's a continuous drama. That's why I seperated GPUPI 3.2 and 3.3. Now I could care less if we had only 200 subs, But the wprime database is huge. Adn these scores are really out of whack for clocks versus efficiency. No scores stays forever and Luumi eg has shown it can be done by real overclocking and tweaking. Many of the new top scores, like eg your AMD ones are that we learned how to properly maximize this CPU generation. On top of that we now have superior pots, better thermal paste and more knowledge how to fine tune memory and OS.

So I share the numerous cheatengine, Slinky PC tweaks and than that makes it okay for modern OCers apparently If you use common sense and reasoning you can easily determine that this wprime scoring has got nothing to do with a tweak (like setting affinity , playing with the threads or running in diag mode) and definitely nothing to do with true spirit of OCing. Yes that bascily means more Mhz and tweaking to get that little edge. Not trash a 2D score with 300MHz less in CPU power. In my little narrow minded world I would classify it as software haxing. Again GPUPI requires 3rd party software, same as HWBot prime, I never liked that idea but the developer took that path. Raufs tweak is also known by the mods... Do I use it, nope, but that one is a genuine tweak...

If a benchmark requires a 3rd party software it is like that and tweakable if you find the right version. LOD can also be set by anyone and there's a challenge to find the right setting To be honest the software tweaking is tiresome, especialy for moderation or setting up rules...

If we approve this we lost another benchmark in my book... I still remember I got contacted on Discord for this and I saw a slightly faster score at similar clocks. So though yeah why not. But don't you all think this is getting completely disproportionate now? CPUs running at 300-400Mhz lower and shaving of over 30seconds... This act will mess up the entire socket 775 Wprime ranking, imagine another DLL is found and that guy will beat your scores that you achieved by binning tons of CPUs and wasted liters of LN2 on by a watercooled CPU... I rather have this stopped right now and remove a dozen scores and to keep the integrity of the database and the users mertited points. If you guys vote to keep it well I only see the option to remove points here, as it will become a complete drama alike XTU or PCMark. Or we end up imposing BenchMate runs on Win7 so this might not occur. This ain't Wprime anymore and yes correct you are not directly are changing the benchmark, but the bottom line is it ain't fair to all those that either don't have their gem cpus anymore and did it the right way by just pressing Run Benchmark. To me its the same as running a 1990 Formula one car with a far more optimized fuel mixture that unleashes an extra 100Hp and break all the track records becasue the cars top speed is way higher and accelerates more rapdidly....

Those are not part of the 3DMARK benchmark suite

Everything should be visible on older versions, so that's not a problem. It is with the new Benchmark GUI layout that you can't fit everything on the screen, unless you have a 1440P screen or oversize the resolution via the videocard software. But from 2021 a verification link will be mandatory for all 3DMarks...

Verification screenshot contains CPUZ for CPU, memory and Zentimings v1.2.1

reported it, was trying to do a summary of all the challengers last nite and it was insanely slow, I gave up EDIT: Just got the word that it was restarted. Seems to work again!